From owner-svn-src-user@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 15:37:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-user@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDABA8E0; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E4B8FC0C; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 163DAB911; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:37:06 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: attilio@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r241889 - in user/andre/tcp_workqueue/sys: arm/arm cddl/compat/opensolaris/kern cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common/dtrace cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common/fs/zfs ddb dev/acpica dev/... Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:36:06 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p20; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201210221418.q9MEINkr026751@svn.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201210241136.06154.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Cc: mdf@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Andre Oppermann , Bruce Evans , svn-src-user@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-user@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the experimental " user" src tree" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:37:07 -0000 On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:24:22 am Attilio Rao wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Attilio Rao wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:45 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > >> On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:34:34 am Attilio Rao wrote: > >>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:05 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > >>> > On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:20:04 pm Andre Oppermann wrote: > >>> >> On 24.10.2012 00:15, mdf@FreeBSD.org wrote: > >>> >> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Andre Oppermann > >> wrote: > >>> >> >> Struct mtx and MTX_SYSINIT always occur as pair next to each other. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > That doesn't matter. Language basics like variable definitions should > >>> >> > not be obscured by macros. It either takes longer to figure out what > >>> >> > a variable is (because one needs to look up the definition of the > >>> >> > macro) or makes it almost impossible (because now e.g. cscope doesn't > >>> >> > know this is a variable definition. > >>> >> > >>> >> Sigh, cscope doesn't expand macros? > >>> >> > >>> >> Is there a way to do the cache line alignment in a sane way without > >>> >> littering __aligned(CACHE_LINE_SIZE) all over the place? > >>> > > >>> > I was hoping to do something with an anonymous union or some such like: > >>> > > >>> > union mtx_aligned { > >>> > struct mtx; > >>> > char[roundup2(sizeof(struct mtx), CACHE_LINE_SIZE)]; > >>> > } > >>> > > >>> > I don't know if there is a useful way to define an 'aligned mutex' type > >>> > that will transparently map to a 'struct mtx', e.g.: > >>> > > >>> > typedef struct mtx __aligned(CACHE_LINE_SIZE) aligned_mtx_t; > >>> > >>> Unfortunately that doesn't work as I've verified with alc@ few months ago. > >>> The __aligned() attribute only works with structures definition, not > >>> objects declaration. > >> > >> Are you saying that the typedef doesn't (I expect it doesn't), or that this > >> doesn't: > >> > >> struct mtx foo __aligned(CACHE_LINE_SIZE); > > > > I meant to say that such notation won't address the padding issue > > which is as import as the alignment. Infact, for sensitive locks, > > having just an aligned object is not really useful if the cacheline > > gets shared. > > In the end you will need to use explicit padding or use __aligned in > > the struct definition, which cannot be used as a general pattern. > > The quickest way I see this can be made general is to have a specific > struct defined in sys/_mutex.h like that > > struct mtx_unshare { > struct mtx lock; > char _pad[CACHE_LINE_SIZE - sizeof(struct mtx)]; > } __aligned(CACHE_LINE_SIZE); I think instead you want my union above that uses roundup2 in case a lock eats up multiple cache lines: union mtx_foo { struct mtx lock; char junk[roundup2(sizeof(struct mtx), CACHE_LINE_SIZE)]; } __aligned_CACHE_LINE_SIZE; > then let mtx_* functions to accept void ptrs and cast them to struct > mtx as long as the functions enter. Eh, that removes all compile time type checks. That seems very dubious to me. -- John Baldwin