From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 28 23:43:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17B116A4D1; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:43:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de (mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de [193.174.154.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA6643D5A; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:43:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brandt@fokus.fraunhofer.de) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100])i2T7gwJ18528; Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:42:58 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:42:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt To: Stephen McKay In-Reply-To: <200403290252.i2T2qosv004559@dungeon.home> Message-ID: <20040329094109.G12618@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <20040325070120.GA67497@VARK.homeunix.com> <20040328184244.I10175@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <1080523435.2255.1869.camel@cube> <200403290252.i2T2qosv004559@dungeon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: "Jacques A. Vidrine" cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: Garance A Drosihn cc: Albert Cahalan Subject: Re: posix ps (was Re: Adding `pgrep' and `pkill' to /usr/bin) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: harti@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:43:12 -0000 On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, Stephen McKay wrote: SM>I'm happy for users to get whatever they like as long as use in scripts is SM>completely predictable. Personally, I like it when "ps axl" and "ps -ef" SM>do magic based on the hyphen. That's not a hidden variable though. While that's doable for ps it does not work for ls and other utilities. What whould be nice to have is a mechanism that allows us to make more of our utilites posix conform without breaking BSD support. harti