From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 25 00:12:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA18776 for current-outgoing; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA18766 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id AAA27770; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:11:38 -0700 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id DAA27417; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:11:35 -0400 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA15745; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:11:35 -0400 Received: (from alk@localhost) by pobox.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) id OAA03718; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:40:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:40:22 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <199707241940.OAA03718@pobox.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: nate@mt.sri.com Cc: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (over)zealous mail bouncing References: <199707241422.HAA00957@hub.freebsd.org> <199707241601.LAA03086@compound.east.sun.com> <199707241657.KAA20055@rocky.mt.sri.com> X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Nate Williams on Thu, 24 July: : That's irrelevant. Most machines which send mail send via a machine : that *DOES* have valid hostnames, and the envelope uses that address. : That's the way email has always worked. Quite so. I had not correctly understood that the 'valid hostname' criterion was being limited to the MAIL FROM: field. I suppose (not having messed with sendmail.cf extensively for quite some time and not being familiar with the practices of those who do this filtering) that the checking can be easily deferred until after suitable extraction of the address have been performed, so that the DNS resolvable part is used.