From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 12 09:35:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA16341 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 09:35:03 -0800 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA16318 ; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 09:34:57 -0800 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id MAA13334; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 12:25:30 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 12:25:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: ISP state their FreeBSD concerns To: current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 11 Nov 1995 owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org wrote: > I have been having a lot of contact with various local ISPs (we seem > to have an excessive number of these guys in this area). All of them > are aware of FreeBSD, but almost universally there is a frame of mind > that says FreeBSD should be avoided. [disclaimers: i dont run an isp. i dont have a LARGE news system. i dont have lots of dialin users. ] these points|perceptions are important. XXX has evidently talked with a number of isp's and expended some effort to identify the characteristics of FreeBSD that isp's free are most lacking. let's call it a call-for-dialog. freebsd-isp@freebsd.org can provide the forum. from the initial post and the responses, i gather 0. more dialog between isp's and the freebsd development team. 1. there is a desperate need for additional documentation of the tutorial + example form 2. we need suggested configurations for specific tasks: news spool, dial-in box, web server.... 3. problem reports need to provide information on how to reproduce the problem. system configuration. system activity. log file output. 4. isp's need to be willing to test bug fixes Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346