Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:50:57 +0100 From: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com> To: "Konstantinos Konstantinidis" <kkonstan@duth.gr>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Brad Knowles" <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Subject: Re: A breath of fresh air.. Message-ID: <016f01c17fb4$b3c1fc00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk><000b01c17f42$c23ab140$0a0 0000a@atkielski.com><3C110351.4748B559@duth.gr><005001c17f6c$e60c0ef0$ 0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15377.17350.796336.801464@guru.mired.org> <006901c17f70$19a2f820$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C11560B.A035DEF3@duth.gr> <009401c17f9c$5bad3bf0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <a05101007b837448d6ad8@[10.0.1.16]> <010601c17fab$1cd2b270$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <a0510100fb8375b52c121@[10.0.1.16]>
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Brad writes: > You're trying to unilaterally apply a "general" > solution to a specific problem. No, I am applying a general solution to a general problem. > I am never forced to make a recommendation. What if you are? Try to think of this in the abstract. > Then the choice is up to them how they would > respond in that kind of situation, but my answer > would be that I don't have enough information > and that I would rather make no recommendation > at all than make one that turned out to be bad > for the person. You might not have that option. There seems to be quite a desire here to avoid the actual question by claiming that one need not answer it without more information. If a non-IT, average user asks you what OS to install as his desktop, what do you recommend, and why? You have no other information concerning his requirements, and you do not have the option of asking for more information or refusing to answer. > Common sense? Decency? Neither of these is relevant. > Consideration for all the other poor sods on > this mailing list who are getting bloody sick > and tired of reading your drivel, and tired of > being continually spammed by you on this topic? I don't know that I'm the greatest irritant in this discussion. > Right, and statistically, the average distance > between atoms in this Universe is something like > one every ten centimeters, so you don't exist. Correct, from the standpoint of the universe. > Ghu, I wish that were true. Ah ... and why is that? > The reality is that sweeping generalities of > the sort you constantly spew are simply inappropriate > and fundamentally incorrect, because they are > based on flawed assumptions. Which assumptions are flawed? Do you dispute that Windows is the leading desktop OS today? > Again, what is the general case? The general case is applications such as file, print, and web servers. Mainframes are not generally an advantage for these types of applications. For specific proprietary and legacy applications, mainframes may be the best (or only) choice, e.g., large airline reservation systems, large OLTP systems of various types, batch processing, and so on. > I know of plenty of situations where mainframe > machines are precisely the best kind of server to > use, because they are so very good at handling > very large volumes of I/O with otherwise limited > resources. Most servers are not used in this way. Situations that require mainframes are generally already managed by specialists in mainframes. > A meaningless circular definition. The definition is not circular. Average = ordinary, common, and thus representative of the majority. > Again, that is not necessarily true. I know that it is not _necessarily_ true; I've only asserted that it is generally true. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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