From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun May 13 13:41:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E83137B423; Sun, 13 May 2001 13:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 72CD566C04; Sun, 13 May 2001 13:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 13:41:45 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Stefan Parvu Cc: Doug Young , Kris Kennaway , Rahul Siddharthan , Kathy Quinlan , Sue Blake , N6REJ , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm leaving Message-ID: <20010513134145.C62345@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <003101c0dba1$181a7aa0$0300a8c0@oracle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xesSdrSSBC0PokLI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sparvu@cc.hut.fi on Sun, May 13, 2001 at 03:02:58PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --xesSdrSSBC0PokLI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 03:02:58PM +0300, Stefan Parvu wrote: >=20 > "default GUI install" is a subject to discuss. In my oppinion is not a > good idea because: >=20 > 1. The core OS should be simple and simple to install. No GUI for that. > Make a comparations between Solaris, OpenBSD, Microsoft, Linux RedHat, > Suse. Time it and think again. As well look to the complexity of GUI > Install stuff.=20 >=20 > 2. The text mode is really cool. Is fast and it's simple. No extra effort. >=20 > 3. No problems with video cards or VESA generic mode. Keep it simple. For > what do you need install GUI ??? Comfort ? Help for new users ??? =20 >=20 > At least these 3 points makes a good point to keep the sysinstall stuff. > If new users come and want to learn the stuff is simple: Grab a doc and > read it. Why we should have a "right click" formula as Microsoft or other > commercial UNIXes does ??? Sysinstall anyway is simple to use more than > any GUI ...=20 You've misunderstood. We're not talking about a replacement for sysinstall (though that is -- slowly -- being developed with the full understanding of what you said above in mind); we're talking about the capability for sysinstall to install a Window Manager + desktop environment for the user to provide a more friendly face than a csh prompt. Actually, we're not even talking about that; it's already existed for some time -- we were talking about someone actually making a nice, FreeBSD-customized desktop environment for one of the popular WMs (I don't personally care which). Kris --xesSdrSSBC0PokLI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6/vGIWry0BWjoQKURApGbAJ0XzvXTQskXAC44UOia3VVumZ1+WwCgpG5f DV31L5S7DpdOZmq+Cxu3JcI= =IE6O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xesSdrSSBC0PokLI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message