From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Mar 11 16:41: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C322937B718 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:40:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 85075 invoked by uid 100); 12 Mar 2001 00:40:53 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15020.6933.697021.262703@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:40:53 -0600 To: Damien Tougas Cc: Brad Knowles , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Tyler K McGeorge , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for Yoda In-Reply-To: <20010311192632.B368@sprig.tougas.net> References: <20010310230724.A292@sprig.tougas.net> <000601c0a9f9$31b88120$103b7c18@palisor.yi.org> <20010311175629.A368@sprig.tougas.net> <15020.1807.762080.742959@guru.mired.org> <20010311192632.B368@sprig.tougas.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Damien Tougas types: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 05:15:27PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > >Attitude is everything. If your attitude is that you are somehow owed > >a place on the project, that's inappropriate. If you ask if there is > >something you can do, that's perfectly appropriate. The text you chose > >is somewhere between those two positions. > I apologize if I came across as if I am owed anything, I definitely do > not feel that way at all. I feel I owe more to the FreeBSD community > than anyone owes me. I don't think you came across that way. You were trying to show why you wouldn't just approach Greg, and hence the attitude was one you *wouldn't* actually have. I wanted to show that you could approach Greg - or another project coordinator - in a way that wouldn't have that problem. > >Some of this is stuff you can just *do*. For instance, if you notice > >that some question is showing up on -questions frequently but there > >isn't a FAQ entry, write one. For man pages, if you notice a command > >or file doesn't have a man page - just write one. For the latter you > >need to have a copy of -current running, but you can dual boot -stable > >and -current. They can even share swap, ports and /usr/local, though > >the last takes some work. > Ok. If I decided that I wanted to change/enhance somthing, what would > be the proper channels to have it sent to the right person? A PR is the official channel. Patches to programs, new programs, new ports, additions to the handbook and FAQ - everything goes through that. If you're actually contributing code, start the synopsis with "[PATCH]" - unless it's a port. There are other such comments, but I don't know if they are documented anywhere. Actually, that's a project right there - locate all those, figure out where they should be added, and do it. The response to PR's varies quite a bit from developer and area to developer and area. If you know the responsible developer, you might ask them to look at it if it's been ignored for a while. If you don't, asking for *someone* to look at it on the appropriate mail list might help. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message