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From: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To: John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>, arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: removing bdes..
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On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 09:20:39AM -0800, Gleb Kurtsou wrote:

> On (10/02/2015 18:18), Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 10:15:02AM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> > 
> > > So, I happen to stuble across bdes recently and think we should remove
> > > it..
> > > 
> > > I'm fine w/ making it a port so that people who need it can use it...
> > > 
> > > Especially considering:
> > >      The DES cipher should no longer be considered secure.  Please consider
> > >      using a more modern alternative.
> > > 
> > > Though sadly, that comment was added almost 15 years after DES was
> > > brute forced by DEEPCrack.
> > 
> > Clear text also insecure. Do you remove all clear text?
> 
> This is rather odd argument ;)
> 
> I'm all for removing it. openssl provides file encryption for those who
> need it in base.

3DES remove too? and how to login users with password in 3DES?
How to migrate old system with 3DES passwords?