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Date:      Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:06:25 +0800 (WST)
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@obiwan.aceonline.com.au>
To:        Adrian Carter <adrian@apic.net>
Cc:        questions@freeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Weird Network Behaviour 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970409120606.2430A-100000@obiwan.aceonline.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970409142658.00792100@mail.apic.net>

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Had a similar problem a while back..

Remote clients are running PPP? Whats their MTU/MRU?

Cya


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Adrian Chadd			| UNIX, MS-DOS and Windows ...
<adrian@psinet.net.au>		| (also known as the Good, the bad and the
				|				ugly..)


On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Adrian Carter wrote:

> G'Day all.
> 
> Got a bit of a weird one here. We are an ISP running pretty much as a
> FreeBSD house, with them being a mixture of 2.1.5's (only one machine, due
> to the fact it is offsite and I havent had the time to go onsite and
> upgrade) and 2.1.7's.
> 
> In the last 4 days the machine running 2.1.5 has been sporadically
> 'dropping data'. In that I mean, as an example, If youy try and send a
> message via that machines SMTP port, communication works fine for the HELO,
> MAIL FROM, and RCPT TO. The client then sends the DATA command, and
> according to sendmail logs, the machine reports a 354 message and awaits
> the data. However, the end-user program never see's the 354 message, and
> eventually times out. If you use the same machine, with the same e-mail
> message, and use a different SMTP host, it works fine. 
> 
> So, its a sendmail problem me thinks... so I recompile, reconfigure,
> cajoule, coax, abuse sendmail for 2 days, all to no avail. During the
> course of all this, its discovered that rcp'ing to the machine any large
> file also timesout. However, in 90% of cases, small files and small e-mails
> go through fine, but I dont see how this relates, because, the CLIENT is
> not seeing the servers 354, which occurs BEFORE it sends the data to the
> server, so at the stage that it is 'breaking' the server is unaware of the
> size of the message.
> 
> So its not sendmail me says. So on I go with a kernel recompile. No change.
> Shut down every service on teh machine except qpop and sendmail 8.8.5. No
> change. Now the weirdest bit of all is, reboot the machine, it works ok for
> a while, then 10 - 15 hours after rebooting, it starts doing it all again.
> 
> To through anotehr spanner into the works, it appears like another machine,
> running 2.1.7-RELEASE, is doing a similar thing. Users are occasionally
> reporting they FTP in as a real user, they get authenticated, but then they
> get a timeout when ls'ing. Similar situations are happening with the web
> services running on this machine. Access them direct on the LAN, not a
> problem, however, remote users report that a lot of the time they get
> broken pipe or timeout messages.
> 
> Wether the two problems are related I am not sure. They seem similar, but
> the problem here is just to diverse. Im no un*x newbie, but its got me
> buggered as to what the problem is. Even the network card's have been
> replaced, the drop cable replaced and even increased RAM, and there is only
> about a .1% collision rate on the ethernet segment. Its jsut so *WEIRD*
> that it is so intermittent and is only related to certain services it
> appears (qpop on the 2.1.5 machine with the sendmail problem works without
> problems, even weeks after a reboot).
> 
> Any suggestions or ideas, however trivial, would be appreciated, as I have
> pretty much exhausted all tests I can think off, and the problem still
> exsists.
> 
> Thanks all
> 
> Adrian Carter
> Sys Admin
> The Asia Pacific Internet Company
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