From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 18:48:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B1516A4EF for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:48:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao07.cox.net (lakermmtao07.cox.net [68.230.240.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7DD43D4C for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:48:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from dolphin.local.net ([68.11.71.51]) by lakermmtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02.01 201-2131-111-104-103-20040709) with ESMTP id <20040822184819.QNAU1823.lakermmtao07.cox.net@dolphin.local.net> for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:48:19 -0400 Received: from dolphin.local.net (localhost.local.net [127.0.0.1]) by dolphin.local.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i7MImJDO029635 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:48:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@dolphin.local.net) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by dolphin.local.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i7MImEF2029634 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:48:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:48:14 -0500 From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040822184814.GA28906@cox.net> References: <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:01:05 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:48:21 -0000 I sent this last night to Mark, but forgot to include the list. BTW, sound was working until just a moment ago. Broke again. On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 03:31:39PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 2004, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > > I've seen other reports from people who can't even get their sound > > chipsets to work at all. And whoever is currently maintaining the sound > > code has been *awfully* quiet lately. Feels like a waste of time > > reporting anything. > > To reiterate the totally obvious, there is no "they" on an open-source > project like FreeBSD. There's only "us" and "us" are almost entirely > volunteers. If the sound code is languishing (and it sounds like it > is), you've got access to the same source code and history we all do. > If you're dissatisfied with the way "they" are working on it, that's > the only way to solve it -- volunteer become one of the "us" and dig in. I'd like to do that, and I have looked at the code some, but I can't make heads or tails of what's going on in it. Very sparsely commented. I may give it one more shot in earnest before just throwing the towel in altogether on it. I'm just not very optimistic about the possibility of solving this thing on my own, though. If I've offended anyone, it certainly wasn't my intention, and I do apologize. It's just that I've had this nice new Athlon 64 machine for several months now, and it's been nothing but trouble. Really took the fun out of getting a new machine. I've not been in the best of moods lately dealing with this ongoing problem. I'm just about finished downloading Fedora Core 2 here, but am viewing the prospect of changing over with *great* trepidation, believe me. Still weighing all the factors, trying to decide if ALSA and friends are enough compensation for all I'd be giving up in exchange. Hard to say. I know I shouldn't be making any final decisions in my current frustrated state of mind. We will see. -- Conrad J. Sabatier -- "In Unix veritas"