From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 24 8:52: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178E2154D6 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:51:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA91996; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:50:43 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199909241550.RAA91996@gratis.grondar.za> To: David Wolfskill Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net Subject: Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:50:42 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > About the only positive thing I have to say about the DUL is that Vix > stated that entries are placed on it at the request of the custodians of > the netblock in question. This is a very positive thing about the DUL; ISP co-operation. This implies that said ISP's are also prepared to provide an alternative method of mail delivery. I have some experience (from anti-spam mailing lists) of ISP's who are quite prepared to open port 25 for customers who ask. This is very good; SMTP has no authentication at all, and it is this "free-for-all" feature that spammers abuse. However - with a view to keeping the "open internet culture" going, it is delightful that said ISP's will allow outgoing SMTP provided the user "pre-agrees" that they will not abuse the privelige. This reduces the ISP's effort, keeping costs down, and is instrumental in huge spam "trappage". M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message