From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 25 08:33:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA64816A4CE for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:33:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8A143D2D for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:33:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAP8aM0e067472; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:36:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41A598F2.3010906@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:33:54 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob References: <41A58384.30603@yahoo.com> <20041125070540.GA44058@freebie.xs4all.nl> <41A5880D.4030405@yahoo.com> <41A5895D.5030000@freebsd.org> <41A597B6.50605@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <41A597B6.50605@yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 on Intel 386 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:33:23 -0000 Rob wrote: > Scott Long wrote: > >> Rob wrote: >> >>> Wilko Bulte wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 04:02:28PM +0900, Rob wrote.. >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I thought 386 support had been removed since 5.X. But >>>>> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/installation-i386.html >>>>> says: >>>>> >>>>> 1.2 Hardware Requirements >>>>> FreeBSD for the i386 requires a 486 or better processor to install >>>>> and run (although FreeBSD can run on 386 processors with a custom >>>>> kernel).... >>>>> >>>>> What does this mean? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> One thing you need on the target system (IIRC..) is a FPU. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> So? >>> The hardware requirements state "FreeBSD can run on 386 processors...". >> >> >> >> The GENERIC kernel that is shipped with FreeBSD will not boot on an >> 80386 processor, period. >> >>> Can I induce an FPU into my system by customizing my kernel? >> >> >> >> You'll need an FPU and a custom kernel that is compiled with the >> CPU_I386 option. > > > I'm not an expert here, but I found this: > > 80386SX = 386 w/o FPU > 80386DX = 386 w/ FPU > > Should instead, the "Hardware Requirements" for 5.3 then mention > this: > > ...(although FreeBSD can run on 80386DX processors... > > to be more precise, to avoid confusion/frustration for 80386SX > owners? > > Rob. > The 80386DX does not have an FPU, nor does the 80386SX. You need an 80387 co-processor installed to get FPU services. Scott