From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 21:21:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB1CCE2472 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daryl@isletech.net) Received: from mail.isletech.net (mail.isletech.net [IPv6:2001:470:1d:c44::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC16D125D for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daryl@isletech.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isletech.net; s=isle2017; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=SAMkYgpfDJOJF08z0ygRy4aTq2SFKrnZYJWAZ4gjonw=; b=Qau2GR6fBjN7hfhrwmFeTnLefO DRcQI8tIzpTocm3z2fzJYZR954KFYIueALleq1/mhy6oqkZb0EVug1A0yitDafDNaPH8pqQNJAe8e cA7Q4QiWTo2qunqYJ4l2qkwF10aXPOsOptsN5wLB/MgvloxGAviQdMhxJ+TE2pLWBfpQdIPriE/gQ +fA6iQyDTROFaCeCVBWuIMZO2LQPvdMqSfMU/bZJQuS5J+kWpj+MtSnlk6loIDIzsSq3j7tCAWvZF 9cymuVtKQYl4spC6VWGc0HWK89Y+OEVwIHZmFctEwqHsvNtkTKOXZ01DDS1QV/CM7y0EhyOcuC8Aj sSA+/2Pg==; Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> From: Daryl Richards Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:21:03 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:21:06 -0000 >> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional >> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use >> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George >> >> > > Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package > manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on > multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot > environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not > found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. For those of use who have a half-dozen machines, all with differing options, having a central build machine doesn't make a lot of sense. Have a tool like portmaster, for ease of local building and upgrading of ports, is very useful. Just my 2c worth. I'm glad to see people believing there is still a place for a tool like this.