From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 18 00:49:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4624106564A for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: from seaholm.caamora.com.au (seaholm.caamora.com.au [203.7.226.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7608FC13 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by seaholm.caamora.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id m2I0nRd26611; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:49:27 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <20080318114926.43830@caamora.com.au> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:49:27 +1100 From: jonathan michaels To: KAYVEN RIESE References: <20080111115804.T2095@klein.bigpond.com> <47DAF203.40106@emailrob.com> <47DB7009.1020606@highperformance.net> <20080315212432.45787@caamora.com.au> <47DC0756.4050304@highperformance.net> <20080316032755.GB74896@kobe.laptop> <47DDD5E5.4020001@daleco.biz> <2fd864e0803170542p3c0ce2cscd5279c57e0cfc25@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from KAYVEN RIESE on Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:14:29AM -0700 Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Cc: "j. ron heeblack" , Astrodog , fbsd_chat Subject: Re: on content versus presentation [ was: Re: Why the FreeBSD license will not be changing ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:49:44 -0000 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:14:29AM -0700, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Astrodog wrote: > > > Just as "I really enjoy drinking heavily then driving like Mario > > Andretti, Officer Smith" is much more understandable, and can be read > > faster than, "ireallyenjoydrinkingheavilythendrivinglikemarioandrettiofficersmith" > > i really enjoy drinking heavily then driving like mario andretti, > officer smith. > > GET YER FACTS STRAIGHT!!! {:D > > > These rules do not exist for your, personal, outgoing communication's > > benefit. They exist to assist people reading what others have written. > > I know of very few people who follow these rules when writing notes > > for their own use. > > fyi, i know a NUMBER of people who write like this because it is > faster to type. the space bar is very easy to hit i am not > suggesting abolishing that. i don't think sentence beginning > capitalization is significantly facilitating in ease of > reading. capitalizing can be a distraction sometimes > the rules are subtle. i find myself spending more time > wondering if things are proper nouns than the *@(#& content. > ppl who COMPLAIN about lack of capitalization waste more > time on that than the subject at hand. > > >While you can elect to ignore these rules in > > communication with others, doing so makes understanding things you > > write more difficult. These kinds of mistakes also make ambiguous > > sentences more likely to occur, as the building blocks of the sentence > > are not recognizable by others. > > i capitalize things like freeBSD and NaK ATPase as such. i don't > like to waste bending for the shift key if i am having what my > mom has called distertations if i get on a serious train of thought. > > > Needless to say, fluency with these rules will not be consistent > > across a large group of people. However, the fact that some people do > > not know the rules as well as others, is no excuse for not working to > > make your material easier to understand. > > sentence beginning capitalization is REDUNDANT as there is such > a thing as a period followed by TWO spaces. i, unlike the guy who started > this thread, seemingly, do not support excessive ambiguuous misspellings, please let it be know that i do not and neither have i ever supported careless/incorrect spelling. my posts are a constructed with a brain that lives with significant damage which causes significant dsylexia for which there is no unix based spelling checker that can cope with teh type "misspellings" that are so generated. my coreneas are incorrectly formed in that tehy curve inwards as opposed to teh normal outward curve this cannot be correctde by the new technology type soft contact lenses and these days as nearly all contact lenses makers make (universally) the soft plastic lenses that cannot support the double curve required to 1/fit my corneas, 2/ correct teh astigmatism also because of other issues my eyes are not suitable for contact lenses. one of teh side effects of my eyes being as tehy are is that on a normal screen using normal line and character spacing i see four images with my left eye and 3 or 5 images all this is going on simaltaniously and concurrently with the other eye. my brain is working overtime sorting this mess out, fortunately fro me i've lived with this all of my life so my brain has worked out a 'workabel' processing system that 'copes' most of teh time. to allievate most of ths visual confusion i need to tripple line space and space teh characters some 4'ish character widths. screen this make a standard 80 character width line to be totally readable, then comes teh process of understanding this visually windowing context based cut, stitch and paste processing that my brain takes for granted .. and i wonder why reading ant typing is so laboriously tiring .. it is so much hard work then comes teh aspergers .. this leaves me with a dictionary like 'emotional' context for 'language', also if we were talking face to face i cannot read "body language" after all of this comes teh effects of damaged neurological circuits that make typing, walking eating and most other motor (fine, especially) based actions a bit of a lottery especially at teh end of teh hrt cycle whicj has improved since i asked teh dr's to change teh injection duration from 3 weeks down to two weeks . evey 14 days the district nurse arrives to stick a 55 mm 0.5mm inside bore needle into, pick a large muscle, i get all 55 mm and then comes the sesame seed oil based anabolic steroids based cocktail that now takes 20 to 30 minutes to inject, any shorter than that would possibly kill the person and in my case nearly did when one nurse couldn't understand teh need fr a 20+ minute injection cycle and did teh lot in 45 seconds. party political fully paid up add .. "JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS OFF ANY KIND" unless prescribed and delivered by a fully trained doctor and then get at least 3 opinions from three geographically diverse regions, its you body, its your life. this has been my lifes experience this is part of teh reasons behind why i write the way that i write, some of these i might beable to control to some extent, some of these but largely these items and several more, too personal for a public forum such as this are essentilly, effectively uncontrolable and as such unfixable from my side of teh keyboard .. sorry there is one solution, that is a brain transplant .. but then teh question arises would i be teh same person post transplant as i was pre transplant or even would i still be a person at all ?? umm i think that i will wait a bit longer for teh medical technology to get a bet less frankenstienish than it is these days perhap a few hundred(s) more years. > but agree in those who take issue and ostracize some with draconian > fervor in lieu of having a constructive converstaion. i hope that my converstaion has been of some constructive value, if not just showin those that don't know or understand how andor why disabled people in general and this one in particular are not a participatory as most other 'content machines'. it is not for lack of will or even teh fear of failure. personal failure i mean or even the fear of public humiliation at teh hands of teh spelling/grammer/context aparatchic's (vocla spelling to make point clearer). laregly we dont contribute because it is just so much hard work be it teh physical efforet of actually typeing, be it teh mental exhaustion associated with teh effore going into composition, contextual orientation and or follow-ability, and a whole truckload more factual reasons that cause a serious drain on teh person involved, consuming and auter'ing the content i'd give my eye teeth to be asome bleeding hear martyr but i am not .. i'm just one person struggling to make sence of a world that is getting crazier and crazier by teh minute . one persons cyber-bullying is anothers grist for teh mill, anothers days work, anothers light entertainment, antoerhs reason'd'etre, anothers excues to withdrwa from communications with the outside world .. we all hvea out ideosyncracies, pet hates pet loves, pet cats an'll i hope that i've been able to shed some ligth on a day in teh life of an 'internet junkies' disabled body, its hopes dreams and asperations. from what i can tell especially from teh type, volume of teh words used by ya'll they are largely teh same as mine noth withstanding some localised issues detailed by my bodies particulars needs. we all write differently, we all make (micro)mistakes it is all teh fabric of teh society that we all live in, the warp, teh weft the weave the strech teh give the durability .. we are all cut from teh same cloth .. perhaps it is time we stoped looking at teh labels and started to "feel the quality" as tehy say in conclusion our similarites unite us far more than our diference that divide us ... > > --- Harrison take care and be at peace .. my most sincere appreciations and thanks to you all kind regards jonathan -- ================================================================ powered by .. 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