From owner-freebsd-bugs Thu Jun 1 5:25:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.42.org (matrix.42.org [194.246.250.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599D737B79A for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 05:25:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sec@42.org) Received: (from sec@localhost) by matrix.42.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA20070 for freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org (sender ); Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:25:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:25:24 +0200 From: Stefan `Sec` Zehl To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bin/18900: patch to add colorizing feature to /bin/ls Message-ID: <20000601142524.A19841@matrix.42.org> References: <20000531095153.A80830@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <200005311200.IAA29719@lakes.dignus.com> <20000531140859.A44791@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000531140859.A44791@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Wed, May 31, 2000 at 02:08:59PM +0200 I-love-doing-this: really Accept-Languages: de, en X-URL: http://sec.42.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 02:08:59PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On Wed 2000-05-31 (08:00), Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > If the user who wanted colorized ls has to change to get it; > > why bother with putting this in the FreeBSD ls? > > Why bother adding new options or features, or upgrades to the base > system whatsoever? Surely if people want an upgraded piece of software, > or a new option to a program, they can install the port? The problem is to draw the line. Surely we will nevae have netscape in base. But perl we do. I (and many others) think that colorized ls is gimmicky enough to have no place in the base system. Color-ls gains you no new information. > Look, it's quite simple - it doesn't cost anyone anything to add it to > the system ls. It does. Compile time, size, startup time, are all increased. It's a new place where bugs and inconsistencies can creep in. > And for all the space-mongers, I'll personally ifdef it for you. Make it a port, so everybody can be happy. Everybody I know who installs a FreeBSD system installs his favourite ports first. For me it's zsh, screen, less and vim. If for you this includes colorls so go ahead and add that port on a new install, but please don't influct this on the rest of us. CU, Sec -- `Software Engineering: How to program if you cannot.' --- Dijkstra To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message