From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 02:30:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9307816A4CE; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 02:30:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-119-53-122.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.119.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B943E43D1D; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 02:30:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7041266E67; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 02:30:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 02:30:25 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Message-ID: <20040108103025.GA55606@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20040107235737.I32227@pooker.samsco.home> <20040108075059.GK53429@silverwraith.com> <20040108075811.GJ48603@over-yonder.net> <20040108015954.V32598@pooker.samsco.home> <20040108101451.GK48603@over-yonder.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040108101451.GK48603@over-yonder.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 06:43:19 -0800 cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org cc: Scott Long Subject: Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 10:30:29 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 04:14:51AM -0600, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 02:05:14AM -0700 I heard the voice of > Scott Long, and lo! it spake thus: > >=20 > > For 5.x we already have a 3rd floppy that is dedicated to modules. > > Unfortunately, it doesn't work nearly as well as it should because there > > is no way to activate it during the boot sequence; it can only be used > > once sysinstall is running. Also, it too is nearly overflowing. >=20 > Well, that's why I suggest more. Have a "network cards" floppy, and a > "mass storage devices" floppy, etc. We should be able to fit the > half-dozen most common network cards, the ata drivers, and a half dozen > of the more common SCSI drivers on the boot kernel. That'll get us far > enough to be able to load the drivers off the other disks, as well as > install with just that on many systems. Ideas are cheap, but someone's going to have to write the sysinstall code to do that (or any other modified scheme people might be able to come up with). Kris --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE//TFBWry0BWjoQKURApT3AKD3VyHJ3N2lEFC3UW+EtVZlrbtU/gCfaDMi O9suy8+4EKKFDXvU12MgjzI= =Fe2U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2--