From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 23:49:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C00BD9F for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "funkthat.com", Issuer "funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC4362133 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s7DNntmB077928 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:49:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@h2.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id s7DNntt1077927; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:49:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:49:55 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Barney Cordoba Subject: Re: Intel Support for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20140813234955.GJ83475@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Barney Cordoba , Mike Tancsa , "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" References: <1407892565.51895.YahooMailNeo@web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <53EAC5E8.2050207@sentex.net> <1407936252.96291.YahooMailNeo@web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20140813184949.GF83475@funkthat.com> <1407967108.71480.YahooMailNeo@web121604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1407967108.71480.YahooMailNeo@web121604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (h2.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , Mike Tancsa X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:49:57 -0000 Barney Cordoba wrote this message on Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 14:58 -0700: > This kind of stupidity really irritates me. The commercial use of FreeBSD is the only reason that there is a project, and anyone with 1/2 a brain knows that companies with products based on freebsd can't just upgrade their tree every time some geek gets around to writing a patch. Maybe its the reason that linux sucks but everyone uses it? 10 years later, some old brain dead mentality. Clearly your gripe is w/ Intel, not the FreeBSD community.. Intel changed how they supported their driver.. We cannot change what Intel does... Please go complain to your vendor, and as you're a commercial user of their hardware, they should listen to you... > On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:49 PM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > > Barney Cordoba via freebsd-net wrote this message on Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 06:24 -0700: > > Ok. It was a lot more convenient when it was a standalone module/tarball so you didn't have to surgically extract it from the tree and spend a week trying to get it to compile with whatever version you happened to be running. So if you're running 9.1 or 9.2 you could still use it seamlessly.  > > > > Negative Progress is inevitable.  > > The problem is that you are using an old version of FreeBSD that only > provides security update...  The correct solution is to update your > machines... > > I'd much rather have Intel support it in tree, meaning that supported > versions of FreeBSD have an up to date driver, than to cater to your > wants of using older releases of FreeBSD... > > Thanks. > > > > On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:57 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > >  > > > > > > On 8/12/2014 9:16 PM, Barney Cordoba via freebsd-net wrote: > > > > > I notice that there hasn't been an update in the Intel Download Center since July. Is there no official support for 10? > > > > Hi, > > The latest code is committed directly into the tree by Intel > > > > eg > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2014-July/060947.html > > and > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2014-June/059904.html > > > > They have been MFC'd to RELENG_10 a few weeks ago -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."