From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 9 16:14:24 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B566331F05 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 16:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49hFYr3fsDz3yS1 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 16:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [128.135.4.189] (unknown [128.135.4.189]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C44D4E656 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 11:14:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Valeri Galtsev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 11:14:23 -0500 References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <62d10000-e068-922e-23bd-f7a61e7a4e89@anatoli.ws> <6a4f6a15-ec43-03f6-1a41-a109e445f026@anatoli.ws> <00225a04-237d-9051-9aea-12c192106a20@anatoli.ws> <373EDB20-C750-42E2-A41B-EA61F6E49807@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200609120136.00005b3c@seibercom.net> To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20200609120136.00005b3c@seibercom.net> Message-Id: <8AAB0640-59AA-4DB1-AED2-205F891375CF@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49hFYr3fsDz3yS1 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 16:14:24 -0000 > On Jun 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Jerry wrote: >=20 >=20 >> [1]: = https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/12/openbsd-code-audit-= uncovers-bugs-but-no-evidence-of-backdoor/ >> [2]: https://marc.info/?l=3Dopenbsd-tech&m=3D129236621626462&w=3D2 >> [3]: https://marc.info/?l=3Dopenbsd-tech&m=3D129296046123471 >> [4]: = https://www.csoonline.com/article/2136901/an-fbi-backdoor-in-openbsd-.html= >> [5]: https://marc.info/?l=3Dopenbsd-tech&m=3D129237675106730&w=3D2 >> [6]: = https://www.itworld.com/article/2744922/openbsd-fbi-allegations-denied-by-= named-participants.html >> [7]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3D20489904 >> [8]: = https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/12/did_the_fbi_pla.html >=20 > Most of those URLs are +/- 10 years old. That is roughly equivalent to > the MESOZOIC period in computer years. >=20 Jerry, I have only one thing to say: those who don=E2=80=99t know the = history are doomed to repeat it. But I know the worst lesson of the = history is: people never learn lessons of the history. Also, as you confused everyone about who presented these references I am = giving appropriate credit: Anatoli: me@anatoli.ws Please, read whole his post found earlier in this thread, it is precise, = detailed, and instructive. Valeri > --=20 > Gerard >=20