From owner-freebsd-bugs Wed Jan 16 2:10:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC1A37B422 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GAAB444029; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:10:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:10:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201161010.g0GAAB444029@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Subject: RE: misc/33906: tic program is missing from the base FreeBSD installation Reply-To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR misc/33906; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Sheldon Hearn" Cc: Subject: RE: misc/33906: tic program is missing from the base FreeBSD installation Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:09:22 -0800 >-----Original Message----- >From: Sheldon Hearn [mailto:sheldonh@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za]On Behalf >Of Sheldon Hearn >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:54 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: misc/33906: tic program is missing from the base FreeBSD >installation > > > >So I don't think that was a good example. > It wasn't supposed to be a good example, it was supposed to be a smartassed example. :-) claws is an appropriate adjective, though. >> Don't forget that Sun just mightily pissed off all >> it's Solaris 8 users when they announced last week that Solaris 9 >> won't be ported to Intel 32bit. You would be amazed at the number >> of people "threatening" to go to FreeBSD in the Sun forums, >> almost more than are "threatening" to go to Linux. > >That sounds like good news. > Depends on your point of view of course - we use some Solaris here and the other admin who likes it was much unhappier. :-) I do think though, that we are going to see some interest as a result of that, primariarly because Sun has been giving away free copies of Solaris 8 for a long time now, and the lower-end customer base has gotten a taste for free software as a result. Sun is or was even including a CD with a gcc binary on it. >Given how a Solaris box is pretty useless until you've installed some >packages on it, I don't think Solaris users will find it weird that they >should have to install a package to get tic(1). > Ugh, tell me about it. It takes 4 times longer to set up an equivalent system - they don't even have stuff as basic as a /dev/random device in the default install. >I think a solution in the ports tree that produces a package should be >enough. > As I've said before that would be fine too - as long as there's an entry in the description of the port that mentions termcap and terminfo so that ye who seeks shall find. That's the whole point of these PRs anyways - so that those who follow have it easier. Ted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message