From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 13 22:41:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA7216A407; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B1243D45; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:41:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp119-42.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [121.44.119.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.5/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8DMfKA1051753 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:11:21 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:11:01 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <45066E19.2040405@kuehlbox.de> <20060913142329.GC70245@garage.freebsd.pl> In-Reply-To: <20060913142329.GC70245@garage.freebsd.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2444454.qAASHZU8ZZ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609140811.19245.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Pawel Jakub Dawidek , Christian Laursen Subject: Re: gjournal and Softupdates X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:41:47 -0000 --nextPart2444454.qAASHZU8ZZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 13 September 2006 23:53, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 12:04:01PM +0200, Christian Laursen wrote: > > Ivan Voras writes: > > > - todays desktop drives can lie about writing data. SoftUpdates relies > > > on some assumptions about when the data is physically written to > > > media, and those are not always valid today > > > > I think journaling relies on the same assumptions. > > Not gjournal, because it uses BIO_FLUSH I/O requests which flushes disk > write cache when needed. It should be possible to use this same mechanism for SU too, right? Of course that may result in really poor write performance :) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart2444454.qAASHZU8ZZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFCIkP5ZPcIHs/zowRAoCJAKCqpS5dZCqGj2WF1ruQulAn1cavJACfcu/q ll+yj9RFjUVOKXKQhdn4Jr4= =yFqA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2444454.qAASHZU8ZZ--