From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 12:53:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879441065672 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from raven.bwct.de (raven.bwct.de [85.159.14.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8488FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cicely.de ([10.1.1.37]) by raven.bwct.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o25CqdOV007000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:52:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely7.cicely.de (cicely7.cicely.de [10.1.1.9]) by mail.cicely.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25CqUQ6041218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:52:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely7.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely7.cicely.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o25CqUf8097133; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:52:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely7.cicely.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o25CqM8j097132; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:52:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:52:22 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Alex Keda Message-ID: <20100305125222.GS58319@cicely7.cicely.de> References: <17035.1267786772@critter.freebsd.dk> <4B90E6B3.9070906@lissyara.su> <4B90EA8A.3090306@lissyara.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B90EA8A.3090306@lissyara.su> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely7.cicely.de 7.0-STABLE i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on spamd.cicely.de Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:53:10 -0000 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 02:27:06PM +0300, Alex Keda wrote: > On 05.03.2010 14:16, Doug Rabson wrote: > >On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:10:43 +0300, Alex Keda wrote: > > > >>On 05.03.2010 13:59, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> > >>>In message<4B90E171.2040808@lissyara.su>, Alex Keda writes: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD or > >>>> > >ManagedBSD? > > > >>>>=) > >>>>or something abstract? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>You are free to use any other operating system of your choice, if you > >>>are not happy with FreeBSD. > >>> > >>>Don't let the door hit you on the way out. > >>> > >>> > >>I'm not going anywhere, not even hope for it =) > >>I'm trying to make FreeBSD a better, more logical. > >>Maybe that's not very successful, but judging by the number of > >>responses, it hurt many, and made to think even more people. > >> > >I think you misunderstand. Some of us old-timers have been having this > >discussion repeatedly for well over ten years. It always ends up the same > >way - a re-org might make the source tree marginally prettier but the > >consequences for long-term maintenance and supporting downstream > >contributors outweigh any possible benefit. Having the same conversation > >every two years with the same outcome gets annoying. > > > And the fact that this issue was raised with enviable regularity - not > make you think that it really needs to be done? And the fact that weighting the arguments always ends in the same result - not make you think that this really shouldn't be done? A calculation always ends in the same result until the variables changes. So far this hasn't happen, so there is no need to recalculate/rethink every now and then. -- B.Walter http://www.bwct.de Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm.