From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 17:33:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060791065679 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1042f5e7dd=killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from mail1.multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897718FC2B for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:33:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1042f5e7dd=killing@multiplay.co.uk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=multiplay.co.uk; s=Multiplay; t=1212687078; x=1213291878; q=dns/txt; h=Received: Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=KrY63JK9IkJ1i2OfLE+Cf zDdbltLuJqo3YkEugxV4kY=; b=AY4NS1zWCSqqeYdYm8NGvzaUeJlk435dJ42lj 1N4CJsOhb4BNNkXJbWEvLNlWVgBs36Pw1Opy4rRGFbBMcce/aeOLOJPgHBRXaaoY U4xI5gBNNp7wU82KEmQ0MbzB/ps+XKY4lnbmnImIo37DC1r5BN0BTGCR7yPVmdaS /A070I= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on mail1.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.7 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, USER_IN_WHITELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from r2d2 by mail1.multiplay.co.uk (MDaemon PRO v9.6.5) with ESMTP id md50005716396.msg for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:31:17 +0100 X-Authenticated-Sender: Killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.182 X-Return-Path: prvs=1042f5e7dd=killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Paul Schmehl" , References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com><48472DB6.5030909@samsco.org><6010676B-91B0-4AF8-ACF8-039A59B29331@netconsonance.com><200806050248.59229.max@love2party.net><20080605083907.GD1028@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <902E9703E6E50776A17E9F92@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:31:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 X-Spam-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:31:17 +0100 X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:31:18 +0100 Cc: Jo Rhett , Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:33:31 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Schmehl" > That is a blatant lie. He has stated repeatedly that there are *known* bugs, > complete with bug reports, that are not resolved and that affect the hardware > he uses. He has also stated that there is no need for him to provide further > evidence of an already documented bug, yet he is willing to provide equipment > with 6.3 RELEASE installed if any developer needs a platform to test and > troubleshoot the bugs. Unforunately to now he has totally avoided telling anyone what said BUG's, PR's etc are, even when asked on several occasions. Instead he continues down the line of "I dont have time or resources to test your fixes so just make it work ffs!" just not in so many words. I'm just a user here, but if something is a show stopper for us I work with anyone who is able to help us resolve the issue. This has proved very successful, in particular one case springs to mind where we worked with HighPoint support to fix a serious corruption issue with 1820a under FreeBSD. I have no sympathy for anyone who's going to moan about a previous release being desupported that isn't willing to put the effort in to make the issues they are seeing get fixed. Regards Steve ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk.