From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Feb 26 18:55:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E37F150C5 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 18:55:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA09707; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:24:50 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id NAA07368; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:24:47 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19990227132446.B7279@lemis.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:24:46 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Brett Glass , Christopher Masto , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Stallman uses FreeBSD (was: GNU/FreeBSD? Not by that name) References: <4.1.19990225172551.04025880@mail.lariat.org> <4.1.19990225172551.04025880@mail.lariat.org> <19990226103959.A8072@netmonger.net> <4.1.19990226084333.04079300@mail.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990226084333.04079300@mail.lariat.org>; from Brett Glass on Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 08:51:39AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 26 February 1999 at 8:51:39 -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > At 10:39 AM 2/26/99 -0500, Christopher Masto wrote: > >> Brett, we understand that you feel hurt by the FSF and hurting them >> back is the only way you can currently deal with your anger, > > Bullshit. Right, he forgot that you also take it out on other FreeBSD people. >> but please don't make such blatant lies. To quote a page from >> fsf.org: >> >> "There are many different non-copyleft free software licenses, >> including the X10 license, the XFree86 license, and the FreeBSD >> license, and the BSD (Berkeley System Distribution) license." > > They then go on to trash the Berkeley licenses, on their Web pages > and even more so at public appearances and in e-mail. Since you mention this, here's a story from the AUUG Winter 1998 conference. I had signed up for the Emacs tutorials on the Monday, held by Stallman. When the class started, he wasn't there. I decided to go upstairs and get my laptop, and when I came down Stallman was in the foyer, looking lost. I took him to his class, where he discovered that he had left the power supply to his laptop behind. In the end, I lent him mine, running FreeBSD of course, and he held the tutorial on that. He was completely reasonable about FreeBSD ("of course, we'd prefer it to be GPL, but it's free software, and that's the important thing"). For those of you who are interested, you'll see a picture of him holding a FreeBSD CD-ROM set and talking to Peter Wemm of the FreeBSD core team at http://www.lemis.com/grog/auug98.html. To prepare for your inevitable rebuttal: yes, rms is not known for consistency. But he can show himself to be reasonable. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message