From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 21:13:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7006337B602 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:13:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00847 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:13:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:13:17 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu>; from Brooks Davis on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 10:00:24AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 10:00:24AM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 08:49:46PM +0400, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > Accidentally, I've found out that /usr/sbin/bad144 in my fbsd 4.0 > > is dated by December, and there is no bad144 in /usr/src. > > So, has it disappeared? > > Yes it has been removed. Modern drives do it for you. By the time you my "modern drive" dosen't, it is a 1992 fujitsu 345 mb esdi with 6 bad sectors in the manufactuers 'bad blocks table' that even after some sever abuse over the years has failed to add one bad block ... unlke the so called new rubbish that drops bad blocks as soon as you look at it or breat in its direction. some of us freebsd users canot afford to upgrade every time the rich deside to follow a new whim .. what are we going to do ? freebsd is becomin a toy for the "rich americans" it may have had good begining and tradition but now its just another way to sell cdroms other paraphenalia and of cources now that bsdi is involved service cntracts for freebsd and that other old war horse bsd/os .. both hobbled together both strugling bith now suffering under the weight of popular opinion. it is a sad day when a project becomes driven by populism as opposed to the tenents of development it lauds so highly. take care sooner or latter people will wake up and start asking one simple question 'is this teh freebsd i want?', when the answer come back no they will start to look eslewhere. > actually see bad blocks your disk is about to die. IIRC, the code was > suffering from bitrot and the drives that really needed it will (ESDI > and MFM mostly) aren't supported in 5.0. and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ? what are they supposed to do ? take care -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message