From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 15:50:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29248106564A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664AA8FC25 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o23Fo6ib037308; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:50:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o23Fo6YB037305; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:50:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:50:06 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Aaron Lewis In-Reply-To: <4B8E7D83.7050004@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> <4B8E709E.1080202@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4B8E7D83.7050004@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:50:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:50:08 -0000 On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Aaron Lewis wrote: > Programmer In Training wrote: >> On 03/03/10 16:15, Aaron Lewis wrote: >> >> >>> Here's some suggestions , don't choose ATI video cards. ( No UNIX >>> Drivers .. ) >>> >>> Well , i'm on ThinkPad R400 , ATI Mobile HD 3400 and an integrated Video >>> Card , >>> FBSD doesn't boot when i switched to ATI Video card. >>> >> >> Is this only true of more recent ATI devices, or is this only affecting >> laptops with ATI cards? I only ask because I'm running an ATI card for >> my desktop with no problems. If this is true for more recent ATI cards >> only, this puts a crimp in my plans for my "super"-computer. >> >> > Yeah , it's too new, the open-source driver will not support it. > > Well , that's because my Thinkpad has two video card , one ATI , one Intel > integrated card. > The Default OS is Vista , it supports switch between these two without > changing BIOS settings. > But i kick windows off my laptop , i'm using Linux with ATI card someway ;-) > So in my BIOS , i disabled intel integrated video card , only use ATI. > Then FBSD hangs after boot menu , can't load kernel ;- ( > > Strongly recommand you try out NVIDIA , at least it has FreeBSD and Solaris > drivers Closed binary drivers only. Which is adequate if they support the version and arch of operating system you plan to run, and you trust the vendor to supply updated drivers for later versions of the OS. > ATI has a bad support for Linux/UNIX .. I disagree. ATI has released programming information for their boards; nVidia has not. Which is why there's a mostly-functional open-source driver with 2D and 3D acceleration for ATI, ...and nouveau for nVidia. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA