From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 17 23:57:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165E6F1DCF0 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic303-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic303-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.178.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90408742FD for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:57:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: Ty2HVDgVM1n.D84bFNEpwAVnWb6jvDeJRIMENO2sywGCUzf2D.03_e5lSaGwbsn PxAU4DXyAJvOOpqrguTfXUF6IuI5q6teuQ4Vj7ULtLg1W42eeHET6j7.NLMMDYBu4bTGY.PXhj9c uNMe8ytO.WiRGQeEMmZfz5wW.KOuKRr.fnt0Z0mL29oG61fmWIPWUrzHRyxkI_dqVXDiFv0kB7we NJWnKT_bMPYtRRTpXLsONfn1um3qgEuN1zJE1oskitIj_m65BIw_331oFnzzON10jPHfIEMqoQU. WZEfNSlF0q0cRKEuMMaZGL9pwhHQOiekJeM5iThQEZC1qZRuJnOyHnWo0xhGW2NlglhdYzKq0rBZ yla3O8U.CyB59JpW_fH1YD8SOOdFgn3b_q2sVGYbEQ2e67GJA2F6O1vPUC2n4kVvso.KiYyBeeFd ZRN5Z4MW6.q2WJoVA2u0mR7D7muWAFNuDQvo_KT8h98ePbUDJ14zL537flIP2zqpc05U9_LgthWz 7lzzxA9CCd4U_P5rmq5mjX_Pf1v9sQap6wSb2mXOO61LhWMh6l70- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:56:58 +0000 Received: from smtp161.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (EHLO archlinux.localdomain) ([46.228.39.124]) by smtp401.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID dfdf4129b2d717591a6b32d68d98b539; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:46:56 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: File fransfer from iPad to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20180218004656.6e2197d0@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <54570.108.68.161.195.1518893084.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <20180216104703.555e9987.freebsd@edvax.de> <44df8585-9874-2614-590a-bea78f54caa4@kicp.uchicago.edu> <54570.108.68.161.195.1518893084.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0git24 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:57:06 -0000 On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 12:44:44 -0600 (CST), Valeri Galtsev wrote: >The truth is, that Apple store offers you the latest version of given >application. Which effectively prevents you from installing most of >applications on device on which you reinstalled older iOS. You are >willing to blame application developers. I disagree here. There was a >version of application that worked on that older version of the >system. It is apple store that gives me incompatible later version of >application, disregarding the version of system apple store client >comes from. And there is no way I could find to request from apple >store older version of application, the version that was compatible >with that older system. Of course, apple store and friends are >proprietary things thus there is no information about them for us to >substantiate any argument. However, it is Apple who locked iOS users >into installation of applications through apple store, therefore it is >they to blame for the situation like the one I described, at least in >my book. That is a serious issue when owning an iPad. Apple should allow to make backups. Actually what they call a backup via iTunes is not a backup. They don't backup all apps, they just store some purchased meta-thingy and there even is no backup of data available. If you accidently deleted an app with some important data, reinstalling the app, if possible at all, doesn't bring you back the lost data, a sync with an iTunes "backup" would require to manually restore data by the file sharing option, but not all apps support file sharing, IOW here is no way to backup all user data.