From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 16:39:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435211065707 for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C691A8FC1E for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 16:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 11268 invoked by uid 399); 27 May 2009 16:13:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.101?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 27 May 2009 16:13:07 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4A1D6691.9070006@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:13:05 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Tonix (Antonio Nati)" References: <4A166B29.1070202@interazioni.it> <4A1809E2.8020608@neely.cx> <4A1D5856.2040404@interazioni.it> In-Reply-To: <4A1D5856.2040404@interazioni.it> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Avoiding source code on production servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:39:27 -0000 Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: > Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: >>> I'm in the phase of planning my new generation of FreeBSD servers, >>> and I would love to make them more easy to upgrade. >>> Main problem I have currently is I do not want any source code on >>> production server, so freebsd-update is welcome, but... what about >>> packages? >>> I would use packages, but they are not easy to upgrade, while ports >>> can be easy to upgrade, but need to have sources an servers. > Thanks to all which answered, both publicy and privately. > It looks to be a topic in which FreeBSD could be improved a lot. > > Is there any way we can drive/suggest something to do? > Could be used Google Summer's code or something similar 8also sponsored > by us)? I've submitted a proposal to the Foundation twice to extend portmaster with similar functionality, but I haven't made the cut yet. I am still interested in obtaining funding for this project, and this looks like as good an opportunity as any to put that idea in front of new eyeballs. Please take a look at the URL below, and anyone who has ideas on how I might go about obtaining funding for this project feel please let me know. Regards, Doug http://dougbarton.us/portmaster-proposal.html