From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 26 04:55:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA02333 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ghost.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (ghost.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.6.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA02323 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from roberte@localhost) by ghost.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA23012; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:53:12 +0100 (MET) From: Robert Eckardt Message-Id: <199611261253.NAA23012@ghost.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Subject: Re: A simple way to crash your system. In-Reply-To: <8484.848970215@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "25. Nov. 96 17:01:27" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:53:11 +0100 (MET) Cc: ben@narcissus.ml.org, kjk1@ukc.ac.uk, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Msdosfs is seriously broken. It has twice damaged my filesystem to the > > extent that I had to reinstall FreeBSD. Don't use it. > > > > There is no documentation of the fact that it's that screwed up, which is > > something that whoever's responsible for documenting these things might > > want to look into. > > We should probably just remove it entirely for now. I have some > stand-alone dosfs reading code which Robert Nordier gave me and I > intend to use for sysinstall, so that's that case covered. Otherwise, > as you've already found out, you take your life in your hands with > msdosfs. > > Any strong votes to the contrary? I don't think there's anything > about the current msdosfs we want to keep anyway. Yes. (Are we talking about the same MSDOSFS ? :-) I use it quite often for copying things between FreeBSD (2.1.5-R BTW.) and DOS (6.22 + Win3.1) and haven't had any problems with it. I also run Wine on progs on the DOS partitions (in fact only D-Info, german phone-book on CD) AND copy files at the same time AND do a find (/etc/daily) on the DOS-FS. Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1 32648 21298 11350 65% /c /dev/sd0s1 513776 237032 276744 46% /d /dev/sd1s2 811024 439936 371088 54% /e I wouldn't like to see it disappear. I could live with MSDOSFS being disabled by default. May be it's worth investigating under which conditions it fails. However, I don't dare to run Win59 and/or WinNT on my machine. (May be, when Santa Claus brings me my PPro board. :-) Robert -- Robert Eckardt \\ FreeBSD -- solutions for a large universe.(tm) RobertE@MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de \\ What do you want to boot tomorrow ?(tm) http://WWW.MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de/~roberte For PGP-key finger roberte@gluon.MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de