From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Aug 31 9:58:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.matriplex.com (ns1.matriplex.com [208.131.42.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C331037B409 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.matriplex.com (mail.matriplex.com [208.131.42.9]) by mail.matriplex.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA81954; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:58:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rh@matriplex.com) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:58:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hodges To: Paul Richards Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should URL's be pervasive. In-Reply-To: <56710000.999257324@lobster.originative.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Paul Richards wrote: > A URI is a Universial Resource Indicator, it's not a web browser address. > > On the other hand, what exactly is http://www.ufp.org supposed to be useful > for when www.ufp.org is the same thing. Why not parse it literally? For instance, http://www.ufp.org would imply TCP, dest port 80, and host www.ufp.org. For ping, that would imply that I want to test the three-way handshake on whatever is listening on port 80 at www.ufp.org For traceroute, I want to send a series of TCP SYN packets to www.ufp.org, port 80 with increasing TTL values. Perhaps this would be a way to test connectivity to a service behind a firewall. Perhaps this would be just another DOS tool for lamers... For email, this would not make a lot of sense. Should my mailer try to connect to port 80 and start with "ehlo www.ufp.org"? After all, I *DID* use the http:// prefix... Using "ftp mailto://postmaster@ufp.org" could imply that I want to send a file to someone via email. On second thought, it looks like most Internet apps would have to be rewritten to understand this new functionality. > What would happen if I did mutt http://www.ufp.org ? In this case, mutt should do an HTTP request to port 80 at www.ufp.org, grab the home page, and put it in your inbox :-) -Richard ------------------------------------------- Richard Hodges | Matriplex, inc. Product Manager | 769 Basque Way rh@matriplex.com | Carson City, NV 89706 775-886-6477 | www.matriplex.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message