From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 4 8: 5:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210B615355; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:05:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pulsifer@mediaone.net) Received: from ahp3 (ahp.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.184.250]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA16719; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:05:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Allen Pulsifer" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Cc: Subject: RE: console support (was RIDE for BSD) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:05:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I second this. I'm not a linux user, but as a FreeBSD newbie I had a lot of trouble getting anywhere with console programs, esp. emacs and various IDE's that I tried to install. The key board mapping was difficult/impossible to figure out, and it also seemed like cons25 didn't always work correctly. The IDE's (whose names I now forget) would often draw stuff on the screen randomly offset by one line or one column, and old stuff wouldn't get erased properly. They also threw funny characters up on the screen when it looked like they were trying to produce formatting such as colored or highlighted text. This made the tools impossible to use. At the time I wasn't sure if it was me, my setup, the tools, or something in FreeBSD. I know this isn't a very good bug report, but if someone is actively working on this stuff or if there are any plans to revisit it, let me know and I'll put in better bug reports if/when I get a chance to revisit it. Allen P.S. I cc'ed this email to -current. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jonathon > McKitrick > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 9:42 AM > To: Alexey N. Dokuchaev > Cc: Adam; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: RIDE for BSD > > > > On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Alexey N. Dokuchaev wrote: > > >Probably improving terminal would be one of the things Fbsd might consider > >for future releases? > > > >And one more thing: until I wait for cool FreeBSD native terminal support, > >I consider copying linux-terminal descrition for my linux box termcap. Did > >anyone do anything like this before? What problems/pitfalls should I > >encounter? > > I must admit, this is one concept i do not understand. I mean, it makes > sense to leave the system freely configurable, but wouldn't it make sense > that the default config be useable? For exampl,e little things, like > linux uses bash as the default shell. It's there, it works, no questions > asked: my backspace never turns into a ^H, and arrow up is history, not > ^A]. This is one thing that makes it very frustrating for those of us who > leave Linux for something reportedly better. I agree i *do* like FreeBSD > better now, but i'm still pulling my hair out over little details that > were smooth sailing with Linux. And setting up usable color consoles > shouldn't be that difficult. But apparently for me it is. > > -=> jm <=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message