From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 14:49:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256E616A421; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:49:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6932A43D55; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:49:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9HEnZ6d076706; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:49:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9HEnZpc001000; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:49:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9HEnKn8000999; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:49:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:49:20 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Oleg Petrov Message-ID: <20051017144920.GA597@gothic.blackend.org> References: <4352D860.000002.03681@tide.yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4352D860.000002.03681@tide.yandex.ru> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvi for serious hacking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:49:48 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:46:56AM +0400, Oleg Petrov wrote: > Hello, FreeBSD people. > > First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using it > for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so uncomfortable > with it for some reasons: first, i use many different systems and emacs isn't > default application for FreeBSD or any other *BSD\Linux distribution. Second, > remote machines aren't powerful enough to start Emacs fast. I tried many small > Emacs clones like jed, joe, uemacs and several others i just can't remember. > But for different reasons i disliked all of them. Later I noticed default > `nvi' editor, that has some nice features: it comes with FreeBSD by default > and according to documentation it has powerful editing mechanism. > > So, my question goes to all FreeBSD hackers who uses `nvi' as their general > editor. Is it possible to do serious hacking with it? More accurate: > I'd say "s/nvi/vim" (see http://www.vim.org/) if you want to really do everything with your Vi. Marc