From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 12:58:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5643D16A4DC for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd5mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA42E43FE0 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:58:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.212]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HKA00HKSNFENR@l-daemon> for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:57:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml2so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.146]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HKA00HB3NFE0O@l-daemon> for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:57:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk (h24-87-233-42.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.233.42]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HKA009DZNFDY6@l-daemon> for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:57:14 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:56:55 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <20030827233934.O48169@news1.macomnet.ru> X-Sender: cperciva@popserver.sfu.ca To: Maxim Konovalov , Mike Silbersack Message-id: <5.0.2.1.1.20030827124821.02d392b8@popserver.sfu.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20030827133126.D4269@odysseus.silby.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030826212312.07923ea0@209.112.4.2> <5.2.0.9.0.20030826212312.07923ea0@209.112.4.2> <20030827122327.GA17847@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20030827133126.D4269@odysseus.silby.com> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ok, are all the panics fixed now? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:58:49 -0000 At 23:42 27/08/2003 +0400, Maxim Konovalov wrote: >On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, 13:34-0500, Mike Silbersack wrote: > > So, I think we'll just include a warning with 4.9: > > > > WARNING! > > > > Do not attempt to stress a FreeBSD 4.9 machine if you: > >or "Upgrade your FreeBSD to RedHat". s/RedHat/FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE/ >It's simple: we need to backout all these untested MFCs. Or fix the bugs. I don't know anything about the code in question, but now that people are getting repeatable panics, I assume that tracking down the bugs will be rather easier. There was a time when STABLE absolutely needed to be stable, but I'm not sure that's necessarily the case any more; now that we have all the release/security branches, I think it's safe to say that most systems which need absolute stability aren't going to be running STABLE. Colin Percival