From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 22 02:14:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F083E106566B for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA33A8FC08 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so2077654vws.13 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:14:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SJ0boUT9uaOjOBFxOY+P4kNOGKTR5zXEopsiu2zvQa0=; b=vR5Ab4q+JGXFmEBPRK8d3NOInmzPyTi/VZ9kQmVqo5/OOZfPHSZZBCOmchbNWcuA1g qnvnaFWj+GqwIUE4EgjTuPsFZ59eT5uCkEnbKfCaqKY7bHz2tf6ZSAGDF0D8AQOP2X4s Af9stce2yxzKqaNATf3d8YlA+igYAYEeQMDEI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=vP7U4w4gOLa4FlpIvYnVJHbYG5Nxr74J3o66CbDI8SF3CVoNcrO47B9VTHXVWxVD2b zYRjEQ+2oBbwgMncKakFl8S/5JglquNWyxehno4kyk2Uqcb3qqYhr+rF4dren6161Ar7 GM0evvwVbH38QZEoZW1TyBGvYACjFb/AaqZmA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.80.96 with SMTP id s32mr2718447vck.57.1277172868080; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.71.13 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:14:28 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dNLhADbTzG9pPkMT3z-XeXrUCX4 Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 05:59:28 +0000 Subject: removing the junk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:14:29 -0000 Here's a list of the things I'd like to see go away. I plan on removing them unless someone objects. Configure -> Packages - There are several problems with this. - sysinstall is obviously not meant to work with a ports tree as big as what we've got. - If we're going to offer the option to install a ports tree, we shouldn't be using one that will just be overwritten should portsnap be used. - We should encourage users to use portsnap instead. We're being blocked on this because something about portsnap and release bits - I'm not sure. But I need to bug cperciva@. Networking - anyone that knows how to use these services won't be using sysinstall to set them up. AMD/AMD flags Anon FTP inetd NFS client NFS server - iirc, this is broken anyways. PC-NFSD rpcbind rpc.statd rpc.lockd routed rwhod TCP Extensions - although to be fair, I don't know what these are. I just know that I've never seen them enabled in sysinstall. Security NFS port - Unnecessary if we're getting rid of NFS server, makes no sense to have this. Might as well ditch the menu altogether, as that only leaves securelevel. Put that in the Configure menu instead. Startup LPD - Requires some manner of configuration outside of sysinstall anyways. HTML Docs - If you know how to use a text browser, you know how to install freebsd. Documentation is still available in other formats. Docs HTML Docs - We like these so much, we list them twice! Fixit Floppy - broken as of 8, fixit floppies are now too big. Upgrade - I know someone is going to argue with me on this. Probably a lot of people, in fact, if it gets removed. But sysinstall's upgrade is a hack, it's partially broken, and it needs to go away. Instead, I propose we replace this functionality with a dialog box instructing the user to use freebsd-update. -- randi