From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Feb 4 09:38:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21602 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:38:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21596 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:38:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i332.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.93]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20011 from for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:38:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA21313 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:38:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <36B9DB1E.786D3F45@scc.nl> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:38:38 +0100 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux collections [for paul@originative.co.uk] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul, My reply to you bounced. I know you must read this mailing list, so I took the liberty to post it here. If you were asking yourself why nobody ever answers you, this is the reason why :-) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Mail Delivery failed: returning to sender. Date: Thu, 4 Feb 99 16:47:27 GMT From: root@punt-1.mail.demon.net To: marcel@scc.nl This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]: RSET 250 Resetting MAIL FROM: 250 marcel@scc.nl....Sender OK RCPT TO: 550 Unable to relay for paul@originative.co.uk ----- Original Message Follows ------ Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for paul@originative.co.uk id 918146566:10:10080:13; Thu, 04 Feb 99 16:42:46 GMT Received: from gaia.euronet.nl ([194.134.0.10]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1114841; 4 Feb 99 16:42 GMT Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i352.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.113]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21248 from for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:42:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA18988 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:25:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Sender: marcel@scc.nl Message-ID: <36B9CA00.FC6AC0CE@scc.nl> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:25:36 +0100 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: paul@originative.co.uk Subject: Re: Linux collections (was: Linux devel doesn't work with glibc libs) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit paul@originative.co.uk wrote: > > > My ps(1) port uses -lkvm. Other ports may need sysctl. In > > short they have to > > be FreeBSD binaries emulating the behaviour of Linux binaries. > > > > I think that's a foolish road to go down. You should use actual Linux > binaries installed under /compat/linux and make sure the kernel emulation > support is good enough to run any arbitrary linux binary. I don't think it's a foolish road to go down to. I think it's just one of the paths leading to full emulation (if that's at all possible). It's more difficult for the emulator to be able to emulate devices and filesystems than it is to port a tool in such a way that its functionality is emulated. In any case it *is* emulation, only on different levels. marcel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message