From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 17:51:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7477B9AD1D for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm4-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07FC31F98 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1468604954; bh=JnoS5Zsw2Jf4eYdd85XJkZD4LmHcJj0ix99kuqaf6Pk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=DJHNT7ErcOSq2rVdCi0A9fYvGV4A2wzt8D16LTQCwSJOg3tOkd4OjwXt9z3Tcgt5ThIGSIMx7Qmnc7F/QfBjYknxfCJejmEh5HzE7KKXWxJCiuUwoipTbfvfqNXOwqWYd3rOCCrfhHQjK4CYV57O9j+90zJZVZ3nU1vRuk7rdB43GmIWxHJtT0ZY7oNw6Yc0iFWVnSLPTMql4vUvAmq/QQ3VDHNXRGh/oMeKsm5oqfrALxLWQcfWhZFsE1lByo9V+aHaDa8iAvxUFcGSNx3DCQhk9dfmDYDum3B0tAmfE0w/XoetwlhLBXU0fbEsSIs5Nn5ndT+w0QSZc26/B/kovw== Received: from [212.82.98.49] by nm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 17:49:14 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.97] by tm2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 17:49:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp134.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2016 17:49:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 880040.94858.bm@smtp134.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Om_CJiEVM1kqEMnbP_S5lB0s67FD3epEhuRq4f0KhmKZkMS eKJuBvOLhyS2yJRPuSPcVTM28yMYv10vGkbbkTUArLTr7opOt2XnOvvLFht4 _Nvb9vCohWpzvdkWvuoIIoF4pNOn7zBjW4oqIq8dsNNz_Z2L.7UeETNYZfhX Fj514EDncWrHZOyA14O5b_l9WqPSoBBpsywfh0nS2V0w27.tI0nPGP..onTu LGh.WaBFc90iwLp0_9uMeVDPlYKvaGe_5sMFcam27SLyYXaVxLtTqONz1rny iiJHxELU7HUWjVJZwQlh3X4ccZ6V4wzn29yZO8kG5pY2oQl0zrzaXGq8_ZhE .Fd3dE9VbNui7Bo6AArwUD9N98d91t3IFkeZu4_3rfYcPNyXu4g0thOFMphN tyo7Iuf8xG7xH2PT.r0bSntjjhQzIhngPnb5gwd71W1NEOPRT6kkPCb3E_Wl 3iJ7xxVnFNd8y8vBzlf2Od9vEziWWkpvRhQn_Hlq_O.Z_cnVbtUoEpND8K7A 2lSyQZxT_FLcGM_CHxjNlSW7NFFtAAlHRaAv8XU8hGrrVvl1Ru2bi X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:49:13 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borderline OT fireox question Message-ID: <20160715194913.7bf3db7a@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <5e4a20fe-51a4-ac10-4f72-23fcc3d04c15@hiwaay.net> <20160714002117.224b64ae@archlinux.localdomain> <8cd76e2e-ed11-7b3b-be75-de6bb4dcc092@hiwaay.net> <20160714063744.snaqwdbmzhd4ndb5@dijkstra.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de> <86r3awnh1i.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160714220944.2f05391f@archlinux.localdomain> <86poqfohta.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <5798a075-66eb-dc37-729b-ba8e72f2e1df@hiwaay.net> <20160715064517.15ffaa62@archlinux.localdomain> <86a8hi979f.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160715185430.26db343f@archlinux.localdomain> <47777.128.135.52.6.1468602206.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-1-geb08800 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:51:28 -0000 On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:03:26 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev wrote: >On Fri, July 15, 2016 11:54 am, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions >wrote: >> Safe browsing requires to check every URL you visit, with the Google >> data base. Google knows the IP, the window size, the Firefox version >> etc., the sites you vist. With all the other data they own, > >!!! > >> they could >> identify you by name, but they are not interested in doing it. > >Says who? This perhaps become to off-topic for this mailing list. The assumption roughly speaking is, that nowadays the interest of Google is money, not a pogrom or something similar. More likely than misuse of data regarding e.g. racism, nowadays is misuse e.g. regarding health insurance funds and this not especially regarding individuals, but regarding in what area of your home town most sportsman and in what area most smokers are living. In Germany mail order business already cared about areas were many people who are insolvent lived, before we had the Internet. So you perhaps were credible, but most of your neighbours perhaps were not, if so they didn't sell you products. Germany perhaps had the best data protection that time, but anyway statistics already were misused. >I don't do anything illegal, but I do know that all governments who >were able to collect information about individuals, did so. And what >these governments eventually did is well known as well (Stalin Russia, >Hitler Germany,... and the list goes on). > >The most depressing lesson of history is that people never learn >lessons of history ;-( > >Valeri > >> What >> they are interested in, is data of your area, of the major group >> living in your area, for political and market-based manipulation.