From nobody Mon Dec 27 08:32:25 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EDB1910D80 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JMrWm4V9sz4d74 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 1BR8WPYT065946 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 09:32:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=netfence.it; s=202111; t=1640593948; bh=RaZai5bRQotKJjaU1UT6nHI4h0bRjbIvILFRrO9C7fE=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=5R29Uh44uB4I71cF5MiJNRHg/KDNuqVavJDs5BK5gkXql4RG7N8ziIHWteUzXvk5Q qmEsEN0nO7XR7xhFs25UxIuBJLgYe1QyETQL7ctVEqULVgsttWs/e8n0txQJu3Ufzp Adr84zIzf2JpeJQTCRxBskePCZjnM7LhqjV9Cwhk= X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152] claimed to be [10.1.2.18] Message-ID: <0f83e5ac-e9f7-e7a0-503e-4f5a30bd974a@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 09:32:25 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.4.1 Subject: Re: Half OT: laptop reccomendations Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <87a6gsq5o8.fsf@betla.home> <0af3dadb-7b1d-e660-037b-0f3ba58b9ad5@netfence.it> <861r23ti4j.fsf@betla.kvm> <3eaef9ee-2e36-fcfe-cc19-d4a23454ac6a@netfence.it> <20211225034612.0497b7415dc039ed53e3725a@sohara.org> <20211225092321.359749cf@archlinux> From: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <20211225092321.359749cf@archlinux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JMrWm4V9sz4d74 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=netfence.it header.s=202111 header.b=5R29Uh44; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.83 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[netfence.it:s=202111]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.86)[-0.860]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.969]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[netfence.it:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 12/25/21 09:23, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > That's the best recommendation ever. A pity that I didn't recommended > it, since I know somebody who owns a https://www.imz-ural.com/ , > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMZ-Ural . An older one, that looks like > an old faithful German BMW. Since it looks like a BMW, but is from > Russia, you might guess it's as reliable as a BMW and an AK-47, but it > isn't. It's as reliable as an USA operating system named Windows. For the sake of completeness, however, it should be noted that owner of such motorbikes, unlike the users of that operating system, usually assert that the unreliability is part of the fun. :)