From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 17:29:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3691116A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:29:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cblack@securecrossing.com) Received: from mail2.securecrossing.com (209-254-39-195.ip.mcleodusa.net [209.254.39.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBCEF43D1F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:29:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cblack@securecrossing.com) Received: (qmail 56657 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2005 17:29:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) (cblack@securecrossing.com@127.0.0.1) by mail2.securecrossing.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 2005 17:29:10 -0000 From: Christopher Black To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: References: <20050607123103.49021.qmail@web52306.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-JAlsMaFFYHvfI9J/76Lx" Organization: Secure Crossing Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:29:05 -0400 Message-Id: <1118683745.898.5.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: Subject: Re: Celeron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:29:05 -0000 --=-JAlsMaFFYHvfI9J/76Lx Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 12:12 -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 6/13/05, Andreas Davour wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Nikolas Britton wrote: > >=20 > > > On 6/7/05, Nosehouse wrote: > > >> Hello FreeBSD :D > > >> A question and I'm out: I have an old pc, running on a 300 MHz Intel= Celeron CPU, on an Intel MOBO. Now, what platform should I choose from you= r site: Alpha, i386? And also for and AMD Athlon XP 2600+ with an Asus A7V6= 00-X, what distribution? > > >> Thanks! > > >> > > >> > > > > > > FreeBSD is an operating system, Linux is a distribution. > >=20 > > Nope. Linux is an operating system kernel, as is FreeBSD. The latter > > also happens to be the name of the operating environment. > >=20 > > SuSE Linux, RedHat Linux or Debian GNU/Linux is distributions. >=20 > When I say "operating system" I mean a "complete system". What good is > a kernel if you have no way to make it do something? >=20 > Windows =3D Kernel + GUI + System tools + User tools > OS-X =3D Kernel + GUI + System tools + User tools > FreeBSD =3D Kernel + CLI + System tools + User tools >=20 > With Windows, OS-X, FreeBSD, and the other BSDs you don't update this > tool or that shell or even the kernel when it becomes out of date, > you update the whole system. The OS is managed by one party. >=20 > Linux =3D Kernel > SuSE, RedHat, Debian, etc. =3D Linux + 3rd party shell + 3rd party > system tools + 3rd party user tools >=20 > Those are distributions that "bundle" the Linux Kernel with other peoples= stuff. >=20 > You could call GNU/Linux an operating system but I wouldn't, not after > being introduced to an engineered system like FreeBSD. FreeBSD is to > Linux as Gold is to Lead, there very similar but one is worthless. On the contrary, lead has great worth if, for example, you need radiation shielding. A point of note is that the third party shells packaged with Linux (such as bash or zsh) are the same third party tools packaged with FreeBSD. I would be inclined to say FreeBSD actually uses a higher percentage of third party configuration tools than RedHat or SuSE, who tend to write their own in order to be more user friendly. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't know of many instances where FreeBSD provides custom (graphical) configuration utilities. --=20 Christopher Black Chief Security Engineer Secure Crossing 22750 Woodward Suite 304 - Ferndale, MI 48220 Tel (800) 761-4299 | Direct (248) 658-6120 cblack@securecrossing.com | www.securecrossing.com --=-JAlsMaFFYHvfI9J/76Lx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCrcJhAPxZlIbJ6AwRAj+cAJ9R8qnBnm1LKHIFVQbJgIWTAdm1GgCfezT2 tWwV4hnpAqiKwWXdhGEZvi8= =NKt1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-JAlsMaFFYHvfI9J/76Lx--