From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 13 00:09:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522D616A4DA; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mailman.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3CB43D46; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:09:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (mailman.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mail.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1EC17B81C; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:09:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Received: from mail.ijs.si ([193.2.4.66]) by localhost (mail.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QkufzE8Nvhtz; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from edina.ijs.si (edina.ijs.si [193.2.4.3]) by mail.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBC217B8A6; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:09:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from radagast.ijs.si (radagast.ijs.si [193.2.4.168]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by edina.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id D183F50828; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:09:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by radagast.ijs.si (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6D09Lc8053855; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:09:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) From: Dejan Lesjak Organization: IJS To: "michael johnson" Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:09:20 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200607130024.18047.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607130209.21325.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> Cc: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:09:38 -0000 On Thursday 13 July 2006 01:20, michael johnson wrote: > I agree we should move a lot of software out of X11BASE but there > will need to be a lot of work (esp. for gnome). I'm curious of the > time frame in which xorg 7 will be committed to the tree? I'm not > speaking for the entire freebsd gnome team but if we did decide > to take on this task it would probably take several months to fully > test and get everything working well in LOCALBASE. I think the > major hurdle for us isn't moving everything to LOCALBASE it's > more of the upgrade path people will have to take, having to > rebuild all gnome components and all the bugs that will follow.. We certainly can't throw xorg 7 that installs in LOCALBASE in tree if that would break entire gnome :-) Hopefully we can come up with transition that would annoy users as well as maintainers the least. One option is to wait with xorg until most ports that now install under X11BASE are converted. Another one is perhaps to find out whether gnome for example would work installed under X11BASE with xorg itself installed under LOCALBASE. There's possibility we add xorg-7 to X_WINDOW_SYSTEM flavours (as non-default one), default X11BASE to LOCALBASE in that case. Would that help with converting and testing? Dejan