From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 10 10:20:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382C216A4CF; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:20:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from srv01.sparkit.no (srv01.sparkit.no [193.69.116.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBA843D1F; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:20:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eivind@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ws.nada ([193.69.114.88]) by srv01.sparkit.no (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7AAKPuA036374; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:20:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from eivind@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ws.nada (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ws.nada (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7AAIC3f002531; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:18:12 GMT (envelope-from eivind@ws.nada) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by ws.nada (8.12.9/8.12.10/Submit) id i7AAICwI002530; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:18:12 GMT (envelope-from eivind) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:18:12 +0000 From: Eivind Eklund To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20040810101811.GB1121@FreeBSD.org> References: <200408041803.i74I3hW3032824@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040804200237.GA9720@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> <20040804201627.GA991@funkthat.com> <20040810041634.GV44716@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20040810044225.GA72217@ns1.xcllnt.net> <20040810044651.GX44716@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20040810052354.GA10763@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040810052354.GA10763@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: John-Mark Gurney cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Attitude problems? (was: cvs commit: src/tools/debugscripts README kgdb kld_deb.py) X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:20:30 -0000 On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:23:54PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > But don't let it worry you. It's not > > as if you're anywhere close to being the main cause of my loss of > > interest in FreeBSD. > > I see. You used jmg's response to fire at me for something that doesn't > relate to what jmg@ said and doesn't even merit such an attack and now > you use my response to fire from the hip at the rest of the world for > whatever got you frustrated. I don't think anybody was waiting for this, I have had zero interaction with you beyond what I've seen in the mailing lists. I feel that what I see in the mailing lists can be significantly improved by trying to be positive. Remember: People are doing what they do in an attempt to improve FreeBSD. Your mails to people should be based on that premise, and saying "I think it would be even better if ..." or similar. If you in the moment lack the resources to formulate things positively, it is almost always better to stay quiet. Eivind.