From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 18:21:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42889629; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E50A7AB; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [73.34.117.227] (helo=ilsoft.org) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq4Rl-000Plh-53; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:21:13 +0000 Received: from [172.22.42.240] (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sAGILBpG001373; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:21:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Originating-IP: 73.34.117.227 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+CIyZKbWwC4sQN5AubTJsJ X-Authentication-Warning: paranoia.hippie.lan: Host revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240] claimed to be [172.22.42.240] Subject: Re: USB locks up system -- WAS Re: shutdown or acpi problem From: Ian Lepore To: Mark R V Murray In-Reply-To: References: <20141112224212.GA14013@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20141113172533.GA18690@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20141113180332.GA18990@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20141113181515.GA19117@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <546515BF.6030508@selasky.org> <20141113212206.GA20802@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20141116054141.GA33186@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20141116175102.GA35649@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:21:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1416162070.4781.186.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Hans Petter Selasky , Adrian Chadd , freebsd-current , Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav , Steve Kargl X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:21:15 -0000 On Sun, 2014-11-16 at 18:17 +0000, Mark R V Murray wrote: > > On 16 Nov 2014, at 17:51, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > > Is there a 'random: device_detach():' missing between the 'umass0' > > and 'da0' messages in the last 4 lines. > > No. At attach time, the RNG grabs some probe entropy. At detach time it does nothing. > > M And yet... Steve has gathered evidence that the system bricks when a device is detached with the new entropy-gathering code and doesn't do so prior to that code. What else is the new code doing around detach time? -- Ian