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To: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
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Subject: Re: A sort of plan for consoles in FreeBSD 
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In message <4479D804.1060106@elischer.org>, Julian Elischer writes:
>M. Warner Losh wrote:
>
>>In message: <4479C171.4050403@elischer.org>
>>            Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> writes:
>>: killing XConsole is not a small matter. people have that when they are 
>>: specifically looking for that information
>>
>>Recall that this is only for programs that open /dev/console directly
>>and write to it, like syslogd.
>
>the description makes it sound like xconsole would not be able to show 
>kernel error messages.

xconsole is a hack anyway.

the correct way would be to have way to connect to syslogd and subscribe
to messages.

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