From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 10 06:41:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11170 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:41:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from animaniacs.itribe.net (gatekeeper.itribe.net [209.49.144.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA10792; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@itribe.net) Received: from localhost (jamie@localhost) by animaniacs.itribe.net (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA01264; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:38:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:38:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: Terry Lambert , joelh@gnu.org, mike@smith.net.au, dmm125@bellatlantic.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD equiv. of /proc/loadavg In-Reply-To: <199807030027.RAA05728@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > >> I realize now though that if you want to port some apps with > > > >> low-level details, you gotta do a little reworking. > > > > Yup. Particularly when you're dealing with code written for Linux > > > > (where NIH is considered a virtue...). > > > > > > What's NIH? > > > > We can't tell you; the use of the term was Not Invented Herei, and > > thus, like SysV rc.d, we fear and mistrust it... 8-). > > Oh Terry! i dont like rc.d because i am left which > "which of these scripts in which directory did what!" > why? grr.... > > with our current strcuture, we have some separation without > reaching the level of cookiness that sunos 5.5.1 provides: > 70 shell scripts scattered across 5 directories. Eevery last one of those shell scripts in /etc/rcX.d points back to a file in /etc/init.d. There's nothing wrong with the SysV init. I tend to prefer it personally. Guarantees proper startup and shutdown of important services, like, oh, oracle, which really just hates not be sent a dbshut and given the proper time to dismount the database. I also like being able to use those scripts to shutdown and restart processes individually on a running system in the exact fashion that init does at startup/change of runlevel. There is a reason for the change of rc in SysV, and it's not a bad thing, just different. -- Jamie Bowden Systems Administrator, iTRiBE.net If we've got to fight over grep, sign me up. But boggle can go. -Ted Faber (on Hasbro's request for removal of /usr/games/boggle) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message