From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 14 11:56:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1640C37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h76n3fls20o913.bredband.comhem.se [213.67.148.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B20EE43F93 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:56:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: (qmail 24643 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Jul 2003 18:56:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:56:26 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: abc@ai1.anchorage.mtaonline.net Message-ID: <20030714185626.GA24627@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: abc@ai1.anchorage.mtaonline.net, freebsd-questions References: <200307141841.h6EIfSrn027962@en26.ai1.anchorage.mtaonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200307141841.h6EIfSrn027962@en26.ai1.anchorage.mtaonline.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: vt/ansi codes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:56:31 -0000 On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 06:41:28PM +0000, abc@ai1.anchorage.mtaonline.net wrote: > Re:Starting with Unix (Score:4, Insightful) > by spitzak (4019) on Sunday April 27, @01:18PM (#5819797) > (http://www.cinenet.net/~spitzak) > > Terminal driver design is certainly a stupid part of Unix. Back when this was > written there certainly was a serious mess of terminals which would actually > fail non-gracefully on output designed for other terminals. > > But this is not true today. Today EVERY SINGLE TERMINAL IN THE WORLD > understands ANSI escape sequences at full speed and will not choke (and will > likely display) on all ISO-8859-1 characters. It is time to scrap every single Not correct. Most terminals (and terminal emulators) might work as you describe, but not all. Far from it. Remember that there are lots of old hardware and software out there that is actually used every day. > option in the editing portion of the terminal driver. And start accepting > *both* ^H and ^? as backspace. > > I would agree that in this area, morbid fear of being incompatable is > completely freezing development. Sometimes advancement is achieved by DELETING > code, not just by adding it. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se