From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 28 19:55:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7DA918; Tue, 28 May 2013 19:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E4C234; Tue, 28 May 2013 19:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r4SJsv6Q052304; Tue, 28 May 2013 12:54:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r4SJsv20052303; Tue, 28 May 2013 12:54:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 12:54:57 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: David Chisnall Subject: Re: [CFT] gcc: support for barcelona Message-ID: <20130528195457.GA52250@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <51A38CBD.6000702@FreeBSD.org> <51A3B8AB.5080808@FreeBSD.org> <521EEFA1-E116-41F5-B618-238E7AA092A8@bsdimp.com> <3C29AD82-077D-4E6B-94C7-5D069A130348@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C29AD82-077D-4E6B-94C7-5D069A130348@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: amd64@FreeBSD.org, toolchain@FreeBSD.org, Pedro Giffuni , Rui Paulo , Warner Losh X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 19:55:00 -0000 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:10:23PM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: > On 28 May 2013, at 18:40, Warner Losh wrote: > > > That's not going to happen soon. While it works OK for amd64, there's still many bugs in its ARM support and even more in its MIPS support. There's 0 chance it will be gone in 10... > > I disagree. There is a significant chance that gcc in base > will be gone for all Tier 1 platforms in 10.0. There are > still some reasons to want gcc installed, but there are no > compelling reasons to want an ancient version of gcc installed > on x86[-64] or ARM. For people who need gcc, the ports > collection provides a selection of recent versions. > > David I surely hope not! Until the individuals pushing the change to clang actually tests clang on floating point intensive applications, it is IMHO dubious to even have clang as the default compiler. Just the latest example: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-numerics/2013-May/000354.html -- Steve