From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:37:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tgd.net (rand.tgd.net [64.81.67.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53F6D37B42C for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:37:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@mailhost.tgd.net) Received: (qmail 79464 invoked by uid 1001); 30 May 2001 18:37:14 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:37:14 -0700 From: ipf=good_product-license_needs_enema@tgd.net To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , "Valeriy E. Ushakov" Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010530113714.E76217@rand.tgd.net> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com>; from "veldy@veldy.net" on Wed, May 30, 2001 at = 09:44:15AM Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I regularly use FreeBSD as the base for products/projects and am a little erk'ed that ipf resides in the base system with a very restrictive license that prevents me from using it. A large number of clients that I have worked with in the past require the ability to resell (or own 100%) binary versions of whatever solution I've created (who-hoo government!). Cleaning out ipf from the source tree isn't tough, but it's time consuming and ticks me off. Base BSD should have the BSD license, yes? With that in mind, I'm 200% in favor of moving it to the ports tree, kernel source hooks and all. Cleaning out ipf from the source tree last time wasn't tough, but not my idea of a picnic. > Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can > change the source at their will and distribute it -- according to > the IPFilter licence. That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD > system level source code. > > > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good > > > reason to me. > > > > Please, see this message from Darren to NetBSD's current-users. > > > > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05/30/0004.html > > > > | I have cleared this up with core@netbsd.org and whilst they appear to > > | be happy that any problems have been resolved, another effort is > > | required so that core@netbsd.org can convey this to NetBSD users in a > > | meaningful way. A similar message will also be sent to the FreeBSD > > | people as I've also been working with core@freebsd.org to resolve any > > | issues they had. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message