From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 30 13:34:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57C937B405 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAULXkx08979; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:33:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <002e01c179e6$b1933c60$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: , References: <001701c17985$89206f20$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <03ea01c17986$b9dd6f40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C07AAC7.4010700@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:33:46 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Simon writes: > On what planet does nobody assert that Windows > is a better server host? There may be such feelings in Redmond, but I haven't seen that suggested on this list. > let's face it, timesharing is a non-issue. Is it? In what way? Timesharing of a large system is pretty useful; for constrained applications in a business environment in particular, timesharing may be more economical than having a separate PC on every desk, although it's very much out of fashion right now (except in very expensive, brain-dead hybrids like Windows Terminal Server). > You seem to be investing a lot of energy in > debating the mouse that is squeaking about > FreeBSD being better than Windows on the > desktop ... That's where I see the irrational statements being made. > ... all the while ignoring the 800 pound-gorilla > with the big stick that has been devoting the > majority of its abundant resources over the past > ten years in trying to make Windows the dominant, > or better still, the only operating system > for server applications. And, some might even say, > succeeding. Unless Microsoft makes some key changes in its strategy, I don't see it winning in the server market. Microsoft has had a desktop mentality for a very long time, and this is very evident in its behavior and strategies, and until and unless someone who has seen some other type of computer besides a PC starts making some of the decisions, the server market is likely to remain pretty safe from Microsoft competition. There's a limit to how far you can get with marketing and hype alone. > And yet, by you, "Microsoft is right, for the > most part" in divining their customer's needs and > providing the right product. On the desktop, that's true. But MS is still clueless in many areas of server environments. The company has a very poor grasp of the real priorities in server operation and administration--which are very different from those of a desktop user. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message