From owner-freebsd-sparc Mon Jan 4 08:29:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02560 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:29:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from piinbh1.ms.com (piinbh1.ms.com [199.89.64.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02555 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:29:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from schmidtw@ms.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by piinbh1.ms.com (8.8.6/fw v1.22) id LAA07569; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(144.14.19.186) by piinbh1.ms.com via smap (4.1) id xma006724; Mon, 4 Jan 99 11:28:31 -0500 Received: from ms.com (saitpc997.morgan.com [144.14.42.143]) by sasmh1.ms.com (8.8.5/hub+ldap v2.2) with ESMTP id LAA17910; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:28:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3690EC31.32BF0172@ms.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 11:28:33 -0500 From: Wayne Schmidt Reply-To: schmidtw@ms.com Organization: Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters CC: obrien@NUXI.com, Paolo Di Francesco , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Read this... References: <368A5778.F86A2695@softweyr.com> <19981231132024.BNEK27753.fep04-svc@winworkstation> <19981231095614.D15141@nuxi.com> <368BD135.8038D631@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Umm.. this is just a comment, but why not use an accelerator board for a sparc10 or 20? Picking something like, the cyclom boards, or Axil ( I think they're still around ) means you could field an Ultra AND a sparc10 for the price of 2 hulks and this board. conversely I think this might be a good way to go since you're looking for proof of concept builds in the short term. --wayne - Wes Peters wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > I don't think that to develop on an old sparc is so exciting. 8) > > > > I fail to see the difference in excitement. I'm interested in this > > project *only* to be able to run FreeBSD on my old Sparc 20's. > > Ditto. > > > > 2) For old sparc there is Linux, but on Ultra there is less support. > > > > You mean for old Sparc there is OpenBSD and NetBSD. Linux is *NOT* an > > option. I'm on a BSD list, not a Pingin list. > > ;^) > > > > 3) I don't know anyone who wants to sell his/her old sparc. > > > > see comp.sys.sun.wanted > > Or www.rave.com, or www.solarsys.com, etc. Go to your favorite search > engine and search for "used sparc" or "refurbished sparc". > > Solar Systems has currently listed on their "Specials" page a > SPARC 5/70 for $945, a SPARC 4/110 for $975, and a SPARCclassic > for $695. If you can find one, SPARC ELCs go for about $350 > and IPXs for about $450 these days. > > > > _Personally_ I think Sun could give us the new architecture for the > > > > As a student (or developer) you can get ~40% discount on many models. > > Including (I think) the Ultra-5, which is already pretty cheap by Sun's > standards. ($2995 list gets you a running system sans monitor). > > -- > Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? > > Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 > Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message