From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 21 13:03:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2648F157453 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (enterprise.ximalas.info [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ximalas.info", Issuer "Hostmaster ximalas.info" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46xcJh6tFgz4Dbh for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x9LD3O1P041267 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:03:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ximalas.info; s=default; t=1571663004; bh=qvFh2atAma4mamouiBOlF/9JCsNuHwCirG2HZmwkg4I=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=JkelKyd1w1//zE90lVr135eFFMZvc/NT7uDEQfRTcQtfGKWstcFqqeOY6VnyNtg8K sTVcSFeE/Li6rObDDo39NKrycaASi20+CuMP1jBr38Rbdy/WILlsylzsTXuGvA73Yj bwqwesV5v4q0GWVleZp1sLi2ZUGfHfOfeO4RtaZM/UnmpIQi2vEuhvO4jO2dF9/dAA hIT+KULWvvq6DBBoFzhMBhy707L/wLw8N1JtTbq7oW40q4W0RZH2XnU7anM1m/12jT xz/YlWXzdgSdN1D7iYFVax+npXLjfe9eu0ZcZIEzN+DiZh56CK1syN9970vMU08seq /TMAglxW8cjkg== Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x9LD3Nwf041177 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:03:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) X-Authentication-Warning: enterprise.ximalas.info: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:03:23 +0200 (CEST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@ximalas.info To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BE and loader integration In-Reply-To: <20191021102002.GA45885@admin.sibptus.ru> Message-ID: References: <20191021083145.GA40656@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191021093319.GA42604@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191021102002.GA45885@admin.sibptus.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.99999 (BSF 352 2019-06-22) OpenPGP: url=http://ximalas.info/about/tronds-openpgp-public-key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on enterprise.ximalas.info X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46xcJh6tFgz4Dbh X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ximalas.info header.s=default header.b=JkelKyd1; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ximalas.info; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of trond.endrestol@ximalas.info designates 2001:700:1100:1::8 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=trond.endrestol@ximalas.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ximalas.info:s=default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ximalas.info:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ximalas.info,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:224, ipnet:2001:700::/32, country:NO]; IP_SCORE(-1.96)[ip: (-8.16), ipnet: 2001:700::/32(-1.05), asn: 224(-0.59), country: NO(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:03:34 -0000 On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:20+0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > BTW the boot menu BE selection does not work properly anyway. I've found some > combinations of BEs and loader options which lead to an unbootable > system: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/bad_be.png > Maybe it's sysutils/beadm's fault incorrectly creating BEs, whatever. For some reason /dev failed to mount. Normally, the kernel automatically mounts / read-only and /dev read-write. The former is upgraded to read-write by the rc scripts during multiuser boot. It could be a bug in 11.3. The menus are somewhat improved in stable/12 and head. Here are some screenshots from a VM I just booted, it runs head from February(!): https://ximalas.info/~trond/FreeBSD-head-BE-menu-2019-feb/ That dark blue colour is my only complaint. It can be a real pain to read on certain terminals/video adapters. -- Trond.