From nobody Wed Apr 1 17:54:37 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4fmCG000MTz6YDVk for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2026 17:51:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: from www.zefox.net (www.zefox.net [50.1.20.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "pelorus.zefox.org", Issuer "pelorus.zefox.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fmCFz3zjWz3Gr2; Wed, 01 Apr 2026 17:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from www.zefox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.zefox.net (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 631HsbUr096078 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Apr 2026 10:54:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: (from fbsd@localhost) by www.zefox.net (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 631HsbbU096077; Wed, 1 Apr 2026 10:54:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 10:54:37 -0700 From: bob prohaska To: Charlie Li Cc: Dimitry Andric , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, emaste@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Etcupdate runtime has more than doubled....Why? Message-ID: References: <2A0E2282-8B3A-46BA-85EC-B62F5E5B6891@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7065, ipnet:50.1.16.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4fmCFz3zjWz3Gr2 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 01:26:02PM -0400, Charlie Li wrote: > bob prohaska wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 07:14:54PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > > > On 1 Apr 2026, at 19:13, bob prohaska wrote: > > > > > > > > For some time now I've been using etcupdate on a self-hosting > > > > armv7 (RPi2) system. Lately, the runtime for etcupdate after > > > > a world/kernel update from source has seemingly more than doubled. > > > > > > It's unfortunately not an April Fools joke, but I think it's due to the new LLVM_BINUTILS default, which can cause some stuff to get rebuilt during etcupdate. I am unsure if there is any PR or pending fix. > > > > This is exactly it. After emaste@'s commit, LLVM binutils is getting built > directly in the etcupdate tree because the built artefacts do not exist > there (but rather in /usr/obj). > > If a workaround emerges is would be very helpful on a Pi2 ! > > > The workaround is to revert a follow-up typo fix and the original commit in > order: > > e8dac3944dca - main - Makefile.inc1: Remove extraneous } > 17494c6e6b7d - main - build: Boostrap LLVM_BINUTILS for cross-tools > I'm a trifle confused; is the present situation considered a bug to be corrected in a later revision, or a feature to be preserved for general use? If it's going to be preserved I'll attempt the two reversions. Thanks for writing! bob prohaska