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Date:      Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:20:02 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        dwilde1@ibm.net
Cc:        FreeBSD-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Promoting FreeBSD.
Message-ID:  <19980417112002.J1090@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <353666B4.4EB212B9@ibm.net>; from Don Wilde on Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 01:14:44PM -0700
References:  <Pine.GSO.3.96.980416114137.10114E-100000@basix.cs.uoregon.edu> <353666B4.4EB212B9@ibm.net>

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On Thu, 16 April 1998 at 13:14:44 -0700, Don Wilde wrote:
> Woody Carey wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Stefanos Kiakas wrote:
>
>> gui sysadmin tools are a nice thing, for sure, though, for newbies and
>> more experience users alike.
>
> I think a better first pass is to give users a ready-to-run
> out-of-the-box configuration with X-Windows set up for 640x480, and
> Mozilla, and Apache. Eivind Eklund gave me some hints towards doing this
> as a setup option during the install. GUI administration cuts to the
> heart of what BSD is all about, which is that everything is a text file,
> and any command can pipe to any other. It's better to provide a tutorial
> to Tcl/Tk/expect and show them how they can roll their own admin tools.
> If we try to be micros**t-like we will inevitably be compared to them,
> and they've got more cheap programmers and more PR money (!).

One of the many things in my to-do list is a port which installs a
basic GUI (probably pretty much the one described in "The Complete
FreeBSD", second edition.  If anybody has any suggestions, please let
me know.

Greg
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